EPT(As for what specifically, I have no idea: I would like to see more Raven play though, they seem like they could function as an "enabling" unit. Buff to HSM, any Terrans out there?)
TLPD Winrates May 2012 - Page 6
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SeinGalton
South Africa387 Posts
(As for what specifically, I have no idea: I would like to see more Raven play though, they seem like they could function as an "enabling" unit. Buff to HSM, any Terrans out there?) | ||
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Fuzer
Finland266 Posts
Terran- 3W 16L Protoss- 20W 18L Zerg- 37W 26L | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:25 Evangelist wrote: Er. Surely that is adapting to the game, abusing the weaknesses of other races. Terrans do it consistantly - TvP is all about avoiding the autowin 3/3 deathball. Same in TvZ - since the ghost nerf, it's all about finding some way of dealing with the inevitable T3 deathball. Sure, Terrans can get their own deathball (the mech deathball) but it's also massively expensive and extremely difficult to replace with a number of severe weaknesses that simply don't exist in the other two deathballs because P and Z casters are ten times stronger than their Terran equivalents. Hah, since when is abusing other races not adapting to the game? Every race abuses the other, thats how they win. (responding to the guy you quoted) | ||
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:29 Fuzer wrote: Lets not forget GSTL winrates. Terran- 3W 16L Protoss- 20W 18L Zerg- 37W 26L Terran - 15,78% Protoss - 52,63% Zerg - 58,73% | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:29 zefreak wrote: Hah, since when is abusing other races not adapting to the game? Every race abuses the other, thats how they win. (responding to the guy you quoted) Making a safe build for late game is way different than making the 1-1-1 build that worked because protos was flawed. (talking about the past). That is abusing. Creating the double forge build for example doesn't abuse anything. (or you use the word abuse for everything that the other race can't do to you, in witch case you abuse the fact that the opponent can't kill you lol) | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
On June 07 2012 17:56 mEtRoSG wrote:which means tvz is the most imbalanced matchup in sc2 history right now Ever! In the world! Congrats to everyone jumping on the Korean ZvT train over this samplesize of 115 games. Congrats. | ||
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
what we need is some nerfs on fungal or against the extreamly defensive hive zerg builds where its just hard to attack into, especially for terran. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:29 Fuzer wrote: Lets not forget GSTL winrates. Terran- 3W 16L Protoss- 20W 18L Zerg- 37W 26L Lets not forget that the last GSL Code S had 7 Zergs and 15 Terrans and no Zergs in the Ro16. I don't play Zerg myself but I'm glad they're doing better again so we get to see all matchups in Code S. | ||
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Aphod
United States72 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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SuPern00b
24 Posts
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:36 Logros wrote: Lets not forget that the last GSL Code S had 7 Zergs and 15 Terrans and no Zergs in the Ro16. I don't play Zerg myself but I'm glad they're doing better again so we get to see all matchups in Code S. All matchups without Terran you mean  | ||
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Fuzer
Finland266 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:36 Logros wrote: Lets not forget that the last GSL Code S had 7 Zergs and 15 Terrans and no Zergs in the Ro16. I don't play Zerg myself but I'm glad they're doing better again so we get to see all matchups in Code S. So you say because terrans have won in the past its balanced that its Zerg turn to be the best race?  | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:38 graNite wrote: Is anybody here who can say something about what the coaches think? Why are terrans not that often used in GSTL this season? Don't these statsitcs, as well as the GSTL statistics speak for themselves? Unfortunately the IM Coach didn't get the memo though. | ||
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mEtRoSG
Germany192 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:35 zere wrote: Ever! In the world! Congrats to everyone jumping on the Korean ZvT train over this samplesize of 115 games. Congrats. sample size is 1,6k games for tvz alone of which only a few have been on the new patch...do u think it will get better with a bigger amount of games played with the queen buff? as we can see in the gstl, tahts not the case  if u dont like the 1,6k sampel size take the 10k smaple size of international events where tvz is 45%... or wait until teh sillieness which will be the june winrates :D | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Plague1503
Croatia466 Posts
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:39 Fuzer wrote: So you say because terrans have won in the past its balanced that its Zerg turn to be the best race? I'm saying that we're finally getting close to having all races represented evenly in Code S after many many many many season of Terrans being overrepresented. Did you forget MVP (a Terran) won the GSL only a couple of weeks ago stomping through everyone? If Zergs continue to win every single game against Terrans then I'm sure Blizzard will react, but a lot of losses in the GSTL have been to stupid moves from Terrans as well, it's a tiny sample size. | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:05 Bodzilla wrote: experiment with Mech. Mech's viable. I've personally never built a maruder. i just hate them so i refuse to build them. me too, they are camouflaged protoss units | ||
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thezanursic
5504 Posts
On June 07 2012 17:56 mEtRoSG wrote: a solid 61%-39% winrate for zvt in korea, what you have to count into that is that the buff only hit the last 10 days of may so june is gonna get even more affected by that which means tvz is the most imbalanced matchup in sc2 history right now I wonder why! What needs to happen is the snipe change has to be reverted to make mech and bio viable late lategame. No other changes needed. | ||
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