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On June 07 2012 19:20 Orracle wrote:
The queen buff wasn't an issue. I think it was needed. I got sick of seeing gimmicky play for quick wins in TvZ.
What is needed is Terran having viable units past 10 minutes before HOTS comes out.
zergs can defend any gimmicky play from terrans as long as they scout it
and with the overlord buff, they CAN scout it
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Sick Zerg winrate in ZvT @ Korea (61%), while Protoss winrate in PvT @ Korea is balanced (47.5%). So I guess now Terrans will start complaining about Zerg instead of Protoss ^_^?
Interesting that Zerg struggles a bit vP in Korea but internationally it is much more fair (42.9% vs 52.5%). Though I guess it has been the case recently Korean Protosses do better vZ than foreigners.
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On June 07 2012 17:58 radiantshadow92 wrote:
regardless of the statistics i still think the queen buff is just too much. a faster spine crawler root time could have done.
Unless this to change pvz, i dont see get there ever needed to be a change in tvz..
Sick Zerg winrate in ZvT @ Korea (61%), while Protoss winrate in PvT @ Korea is balanced (47.5%). So I guess now Terrans will start complaining about Zerg instead of Protoss ^_^?
I really don't get why tvz is so bad, i only used hellions to scout, all damage was done by marine/tank pushes for me.. So when i do come back from playing dota 2 (already beat d3  ) i'll probably scream nerf protoss because of how easy they dispose of everything terran.
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Every terran knows that tvz is damn hard and really zerg favoured. The statistics show the same.
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Can't wait for June winrates.If it continues like that it's gonna be like 70/30 ZvT,which would be really funny.
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Now all we need is a bunker nerf and we are done with terran. Moving on to zerg.
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Maybe we'll actually see a Zerg in the ro8 for the GSL this season :o)
+ Show Spoiler +or maybe even in the finals!
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Lol these statistics.. MKP was right when he said TvZ is the hardest matchup and that he doesn't fear protoss, back when all terrans hated protoss and loved tvz
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Well, this was to be expected right? It is not bad really, means that Blizzard has pretty much fixed the early-mid game. With maybe a slightly too big buff for the zergs. Now they just need to look at the late game and give appropriate buffs & nerfs there.
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Terrans are still doing the same shit they did for months before the patch came and they expect it to be just as effective. How about some new builds aye?
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now they should restore the BF to +10 damage and the speed reapers also, to compensate with the queen buff..
On June 07 2012 19:49 Mashmed wrote:
Terrans are still doing the same shit they did for months before the patch came and they expect it to be just as effective. How about some new builds aye?
how about they can't cuz all they late units are shit? and only the fucking rines work.
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On June 07 2012 19:49 Mashmed wrote:
Terrans are still doing the same shit they did for months before the patch came and they expect it to be just as effective. How about some new builds aye?
u sir have obviosuly no idea what your talking about, terran has been by far the race with the largest and most frequent buildorder style changes in the sc2 history
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On June 07 2012 19:49 Mashmed wrote:
Terrans are still doing the same shit they did for months before the patch came and they expect it to be just as effective. How about some new builds aye?
Quoting terrans from the time they were op "Terran players are just smarter, it has nothing to do with the race".
Let's see how smart they are at thinking new ways to adapt.
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I stopped playing zerg after 2 years because i thought they where getting too strong.
played random for a bit, and now main terran.
then blizzard implement the worst patch in SC2 history lmao.
terrans pretty fucking hard these days
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On June 07 2012 19:50 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 19:49 Mashmed wrote:
Terrans are still doing the same shit they did for months before the patch came and they expect it to be just as effective. How about some new builds aye? Quoting terrans from the time they were op "Terran players are just smarter, it has nothing to do with the race". Let's see how smart they are at thinking new ways to adapt.
They've been thinking new ways to adapt constantly when they were doing well if u actually watched the game ud know that, and if u'd been watching recently u'd know that it is still happening but the difference is that now nothing works no matter how hard u try. and when protoss where going zealot archon for 40 minutes just to get ghost nerfed where were u, the patch came quickly for them, and we still cant really say they deserved it..
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GG to the best matchup in the game =(
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"minor patch, wont cause anything serious" some ppl told us! i was hoping they are true, but 5 range? come on...
just give back the snipe damage, and ill be happy to play lategame tvzs.
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On June 07 2012 19:55 Bodzilla wrote:
I stopped playing zerg after 2 years because i thought they where getting too strong.
played random for a bit, and now main terran.
Same here - except i switched immadiately to terran.
Nonethless I feel TvP is much more shitty match-up, at least in lategame against Zerg i can still win - it is just very map dependent.
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On June 07 2012 20:00 Embir wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 19:55 Bodzilla wrote:
I stopped playing zerg after 2 years because i thought they where getting too strong.
played random for a bit, and now main terran.
Same here - except i switched immadiately to terran. Nonethless I feel TvP is much more shitty match-up, at least in lategame against Zerg i can still win - it is just very map dependent.
experiment with Mech.
Mech's viable. I've personally never built a maruder.
i just hate them so i refuse to build them.
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