EPTcause tvt is affected by the queen upgrade?
TLPD Winrates May 2012 - Page 3
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
cause tvt is affected by the queen upgrade? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 07 2012 18:20 DerFreemind wrote: Yeah TvP is very balanced. I win 50% of my games before the 15 min mark and lose 50% of my games after that  The Problem with the new Queenrage is, that zerg is now relativ safe with 4 queen opening. Therefore they have ALOT of energie for creep. If the Creep is at 12 min at the first watch tower, you are in big troube. All you terran pushes are deleayed big time, so Zerg has enough time to react accordingly. So i am as a Terran player are forced to play a long macrogame where zerg has a big advantage by design. Than there are the maps which are getting bigger and bigger, nice even more time for zerg to prepare! I would like to see Blizzard to nerf the duration time of creep after i kill the tumor, i takes forever....or most of the time the zerg just puts a new tumor and the creep stays at it is... Dahhh I think you meant "I win all of my games that end before the 15 minute mark and lose all of my games after that". Else your statement just says "I have 50% winrate always regardless of length of match" | ||
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iAmiAnC
United Kingdom317 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
My point is that MKP/MVP/MMA weren't invincible against foreigners in TvT, either. | ||
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ActionpointTV
60 Posts
On June 07 2012 18:29 Dingobloo wrote: Well at least if zergs were at least consistently winning both matchups they could take a look at their units but with PvZ and ZvP flip flopping every month what the hell is going on in that matchup in korea? And IMO the fact that unscoutable all-ins and hellions were making up 20% of a win rate in korea should be vindication that they deserved to be toned down, look elsewhere for where to nerf instead of just reverting those changes. Agreed on that, I would love to see terran late-game buff, so they could, for once, play macro game on even footings with zergs and protoss, instead of relying on early and mid-game pushes. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On June 07 2012 18:56 Remi wrote: Agreed on that, I would love to see terran late-game buff, so they could, for once, play macro game on even footings with zergs and protoss, instead of relying on early and mid-game pushes. I try to only play macro games and the closest you cna get is still semi all in. I do a 3 cc build (ThorZain's variation) and while it's not "all in," basically if you don't cripple him with the push the Zerg's late game is so good that you will pretty much lose. It's just dumb, I'm forced to A.) Do a hellion timing attack w/ marines and stim (countered by roaches), B.) Do 1 rax FE (countered by baneling busts), or C.) try to do hellions but ultimately accomplish nothing. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On June 07 2012 18:55 Severian wrote: My point is that MKP/MVP/MMA weren't invincible against foreigners in TvT, either. "MMA" only I have never seen MVP lost TvT to foriegners in BO3+. He beated Thorzain pretty badly. | ||
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SRBNikola
Serbia191 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 07 2012 19:05 SRBNikola wrote: Terran is so owerpowered, noob MMM and stuff... Hasn't been relevant since like the first few patches >_< | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
On June 07 2012 19:07 Aeceus wrote: Wow... I had a feeling it was bad, but that is ridiculous. I agree that something needed to be done early game for Z imo but this seems... just wow :x They did do something with the overlord speed, but then for some reason threw the queen thing on top of that. *shrugs* | ||
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MentalGNT
Denmark1264 Posts
On June 07 2012 19:09 Kreb wrote: You guys can see the picture? I just get "imgur down for maintenance"... I get the same T_T This just proves that the queen buff was overkill. And TvZ 0% winrate in GSTL will probably only make the numbers worse for June. | ||
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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roym899
Germany426 Posts
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Orracle
United States314 Posts
What is needed is Terran having viable units past 10 minutes before HOTS comes out. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45542 Posts
imgur's down for me atm, so I can't look at the graph history, but I gotta say... seeing Terran in last for once makes me a bit happy (sad, I know). Just going off the percentages that the OP wrote down though. | ||
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
 Seriously, I feel like there's an opening for battlecruisers in both lategame TvP and TvZ if they get a range buff or something similar. | ||
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Daxter
Finland69 Posts
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