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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 29 2012 07:22 CCalms wrote: Of course, maybe he just didn't have his maphack on that game ^^ Just playing devil's advocate during the witch hunt I guess! ^^ People need to stop throwing around "witch hunt", "lynch mob" and "pitchforks" on this forum. There is absolutely nothing in this thread that could be remotely compared to a witch hunt. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 29 2012 08:35 mTwTT1 wrote: im gonna stream snipe the shit out him right now God speed. | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On May 29 2012 08:35 mTwTT1 wrote: im gonna stream snipe the shit out him right now I'll do the same, hopefully we don't match xD | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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aTcho
France18 Posts
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Eifer
United States138 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
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Legion710
Canada423 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Looks like Blizzard definitely makes money off these people, here's what one guy who was suspended said: "So I bought a few new accounts. I plan on getting them all suspended, because I'm going to Dark Voice them all. Waste of time/money yes. But anyways, back on topic, the suspension is over welcome back everyone!" Was funny to do some Google searching of these guys' user names and try to find them on facebook and whatnot. I found the above guy's facebook profile in about 20 seconds and he looks like such a fucking loser lol. He says that the only time he doesn't feel depressed is when sitting at his computer playing games. He's 18 years old...uses multiple hacks and bots ROFL...you really just have to feel sorry for these people. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On May 29 2012 08:40 mTwTT1 wrote: fuck my video card keeps crashing : [ The hackers are getting stronger...! | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
this mofos goin down http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8m4d/na_gm_protoss_streams_himself_while_hacking_and/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8po4/grandmaster_player_maphacking_on_na_server_we/ | ||
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
And I think Blizzard only went after the Glider people because they were making money off of Blizzard's IP. Don't know of any other cases of Blizzard getting companies shut down. Maybe a gold seller or two, but that's a whole other issue that doesn't really pertain to SC2. | ||
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thebig1
248 Posts
On May 29 2012 00:14 Inori wrote: I dumbed it down as much as possible because I didn't know what to expect from the guy I was answering to. I'm not high school level, but I do have to admit I have limited knowledge when it comes to rendering and memory management in general. That said, I have huge doubts about your points and thus your qualifications on the subject. Are you seriously suggesting a single unit render takes couple of bytes and no CPU overhaul? May I ask what, in your opinion, goes into the 1,5-2gb sc2 eats up, then? And we're only talking about unit rendering, there's also tiny bits for PC to recalculate like their positioning on the map, used mineral patch sizes, damaged buildings state, etc. In case you didn't understand my point - for this system to work, user client needs to become stateless and stop relying on in-memory information. I might not know some hardcore algorithms that let you do that, but my limited knowledge tells me that there's not a single PC available to normal users capable of solving this problem for a game like SC2. If I'm completely off here, please do explain, I'd be very thankful. P.S. Just to be sure that we're on the same page, here's my GH/SO: https://github.com/Inori http://stackoverflow.com/users/816365/inori Link yours please. Or something I could see that proves you're quafilied to talk on this subject. I was not suggesting all the information required to render a unit takes up a couple of bytes. I was saying the data the server would need to transmit in order to tell the client what to render would be. You would be crazy to send all the code/assets to the client on a per unit basis even in the current model. All that really needs to be sent are things such as what type of unit it is, it's location, what it's doing, etc. Most of which is already being sent. From there you are able to trust the client to take the unit type ID and render it properly. If someone creates a hack to make marines look like motherships on their client side, big whoop it's not like that really effects anything. You dont need to do away with in-memory information completely, because if someone hacks their client to send a different state to the server it's easy to detect. For a more simple example look at it this way. It's oh so easy enough to fix the production hack type stuff. You don't send any information at all to the other player about what is building! Okay, now the hack no longer works. However, that also means that the buildings no longer glow when they are building. So we need to send the most basic information about if it's building or not. So let's say buildingID, and isBuilding. Great, now they can have their fancy effects. Unfortunately, it also means there is no way to glance at or click on any buildings to get more information. Maybe you want to see how close the building is to complete, or what's being built. So you add that information too. Say buildingID, percentComplete, unitID. Well now you're back to square one, and open to the production hack again. So the way around it is to have the server keep track of the player's fog of war and only send information for the buildings that the player is able to see. At that point you have decision to make. Do you put more load on the server and make it sit there constantly polling what each player can see and then decide what to send and what not to, or do you just spend a couple more bytes of bandwidth and just send the list of 20 buildings and their production. Someone decided it's cheaper ($$$) to spend more on bandwidth than it is on more servers and the programmer hours to optimise everything. If it's not broke don't fix it style. Whatever. Also about the GH/SO. I have accounts in neither. I work in the corporate world not the open source world, in the land of NDAs, and as such don't want to tell you what I code for a living. If that makes you want to disregard what I have to say, fine. That's your prerogative. I had interest in turning things into a dick waving contest. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On May 29 2012 07:22 CCalms wrote: ninetail sounded familiar so I checked and I did play him in a PvP. He 4gated me and it failed so he tried to expand and got a robo and sentries and I swooped in with sentries and 4gates and killed him. He certainly was not maphacking in that game (robo lol). Just saying, if your accusatory trigger finger is a bit too happy you better watch it, calling people out on maphacking with such certainty on teamliquid if you dont know for sure is very very very bm. Of course, maybe he just didn't have his maphack on that game ^^ Just playing devil's advocate during the witch hunt I guess! ^^ Wow, dsninetail even advertises selling coaching in channels. I wonder how many people he's ripped off this way... if he's really Impa... but then again there are other fake gms who sell or have sold coaching as well, not all having gotten gm by maphacking, but others who bought GM. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
I shall immediately log on and BM the shit out of him! High bronze so I most certainly cannot play him lol. Yay hehehehe | ||
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Virtuous
United States111 Posts
On May 29 2012 08:21 Wi)nD wrote: lol i knew was something up w/ that deckuckkrockk guy, fucking imba reactions lol Impa is not deckuckkrockk... they do not even sound anything alike as for him not being a hacker I cant confirm that.. but hes not impa | ||
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