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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10025 Posts
May 29 2012 02:13 GMT
#381
On May 29 2012 10:51 Virtuous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 09:40 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 29 2012 09:26 Virtuous wrote:
On May 29 2012 08:21 Wi)nD wrote:
On May 28 2012 13:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
a few other of his smurfs are: dsninetail, deckuckrockk, daenerys


lol i knew was something up w/ that deckuckkrockk guy, fucking imba reactions lol


Impa is not deckuckkrockk... they do not even sound anything alike

as for him not being a hacker I cant confirm that.. but hes not impa


yea impa doesnt have a smurf but all the other acc's i mentioned are the same person


Could you PM the proof? I'm just curious because I used to be on his team and I know his manager.. if he does on fact hack I would like to make sure he never plays for anyone again


i dont have the reps anymore cus they got overwritten but i comapred their hotkeys
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ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
May 29 2012 02:13 GMT
#382
On May 29 2012 10:40 Orracle wrote:
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On May 29 2012 09:14 Silvertine wrote:
reddit is on the case

this mofos goin down

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8m4d/na_gm_protoss_streams_himself_while_hacking_and/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8po4/grandmaster_player_maphacking_on_na_server_we/



What exactly can Reddit do that TL can't about this? I highly doubt either site can get a single thing accomplished. The problem isn't just this one player, it's Blizzard. Fuck, if by miracle he does get banned within a reasonable time period, he can hop on one of his additional accounts which have already been mentioned and repeat the process. Nothing will change until Blizzard decides to. As they haven't learned from their past, I highly doubt their future looks any different. At this point all you can really do is learn to cope with hackers.


His stream already been reported to Blizzard, i'm sure they will take action against him/ his several accounts. After all, his VODS are on his stream channel.
Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 29 2012 02:29 GMT
#383
On May 29 2012 09:26 Virtuous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 08:21 Wi)nD wrote:
On May 28 2012 13:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
a few other of his smurfs are: dsninetail, deckuckrockk, daenerys


lol i knew was something up w/ that deckuckkrockk guy, fucking imba reactions lol


Impa is not deckuckkrockk... they do not even sound anything alike

as for him not being a hacker I cant confirm that.. but hes not impa



it was posted above as another alias of another hacker
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 03:39:06
May 29 2012 03:38 GMT
#384
On May 29 2012 09:12 Doodsmack wrote:
Based on a quick browse through d3scene it seems there have been some recent ban/suspension waves. April 10 seems to be the most recent one. Sadly it seems Blizzard's policy is to do a 14 day suspension first and only perma ban for repeat offenders. It does seem like Blizzard reads in-game reports and takes action based on them.

Looks like Blizzard definitely makes money off these people, here's what one guy who was suspended said:

"So I bought a few new accounts. I plan on getting them all suspended, because I'm going to Dark Voice them all. Waste of time/money yes. But anyways, back on topic, the suspension is over welcome back everyone!"

Was funny to do some Google searching of these guys' user names and try to find them on facebook and whatnot. I found the above guy's facebook profile in about 20 seconds and he looks like such a fucking loser lol. He says that the only time he doesn't feel depressed is when sitting at his computer playing games. He's 18 years old...uses multiple hacks and bots ROFL...you really just have to feel sorry for these people.


Wait just wondering, why does he plan on getting them all purposefully suspended? Or is it simply cus he wants to get the Dark Voice and look cool <_> lol I guess that's what he means by waste of time/money

Also despite how lame hacking is, I wouldn't go judge people like that (seems like you were looking up his personal information... you don't know what kind of life they've been through). Now I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be criticized -- hacking should be criticized. But the other personal stuff should be left out of it.
If you are mentioning his age because you expect 18 year olds to be mature... they're quite often not. Go into HoN or DotA or whatnot, and many people, even ~25 years old, are the ones who BM and flame really hard. There are a lot of people who are 10-15 years old and are mature.

On May 29 2012 09:12 Nimic wrote:
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On May 29 2012 08:40 mTwTT1 wrote:
fuck my video card keeps crashing : [


The hackers are getting stronger...!


Wait is it crashing cus of hack or ur PC?
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 29 2012 04:09 GMT
#385
Do you remember when blizzard released 'Top 200' before GM? Many known hackers made it on there. You wonder if blizzard actually tries to keep track ...
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 29 2012 04:40 GMT
#386
Hi everyone, this is an LG member speaking for the players and administrators of Legit Gaming.

Just wanted to tell everyone here that LG and its admins are working hard to filter out the perpetrators of hacking among our ranks. We do not want these people in the clan, as it hurts our name, but also something much more important: our ability to practice effectively. All LG stands for is good, clean, and dedicated gaming. We aim to filter more harshly in the future and we acknowledge the current problem. Thank you for bringing this to our attention more fully, and we see just how enraged the community is. We can only feel that same anger, and we feel betrayal, too. We hope that the LG name will recover.

One final note: no player currently accused of or caught map hacking was ever a participant in the clan competitions which we monitor and organize (at least in the time for which they have been accused of map hacking). We hope that the clan wars and their results will stand.
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
May 29 2012 05:54 GMT
#387
damn why the fuck anyone over the age 15 would hack in an RTS is beyond me

i mean i guess it's not i just feel like.. how can you not feel guilty/bored and want to be legit good, especially since everyone catches you.
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Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
May 29 2012 05:59 GMT
#388
On May 29 2012 14:54 Vei wrote:
damn why the fuck anyone over the age 15 would hack in an RTS is beyond me

i mean i guess it's not i just feel like.. how can you not feel guilty/bored and want to be legit good, especially since everyone catches you.


Why do people enjoy grief'ing and trolling? Why do bullies bully people? They enjoy the misery of others. Hacking in a game reduces/kills the enjoyment of the game for the person you're playing against so, in my eyes, it's the same thing. And, to be frank, anyone that enjoys the misery of others that much needs to be Old Yeller'd for everyone's safety.

Ok, that last may of been a bit too far, but it's been running around in my head for a bit and it felt like an appropriate place for it.
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:44:16
May 29 2012 06:11 GMT
#389
On May 29 2012 06:59 ClanWISH wrote:
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On May 29 2012 06:00 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:23 ClanWISH wrote:
Legit Gaming has multiple map hackers...


Would you mind providing proof of these multiple map hackers? We are trying really hard to filter and check players joining our A and B team. The following players have been dealt with as soon as we found out they map hacked.


+ Show Spoiler +

LGBolero and LGlightpnwer

LGBolero is now Impa. LGlightpwner is deying that he is hacking but i have replay proof for whoever wants to see it.


Uhhh....chobi, Intel ....

LGIntel does play very suspiciously. I didn't save the replays and they're not in my folder because they were from a while ago but he was blatantly reacting to my movements on the map without vision. I accidentally sent my lings towards his third and he started moving there. My lings turn around halfway there and head towards his natural, he reacts instantly moving back. He was also moving marines towards the ledge the second that my overlord moved in. He was doing things like that nonstop every game. Not to mention his game sense/counters were dead on without scouting while his micro/decision making were awful. And I've heard from a lot of people on ladder that he hacks.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
May 29 2012 06:43 GMT
#390
On May 28 2012 13:38 HenryZ wrote:
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On May 28 2012 13:26 KeeN wrote:
IMNestea also maphacks, but Impa aka is LGBolero

here is more : http://drop.sc/186897 (Blinks without even looking at units)

if you need proof go on google and do a search for 'impa maphacks' you'll find dozens of replays posted


IMNesTea = GameOfDrone (seems like main acc) = Daenerys = HRGzack

This guy always has like 100 apm and hotkeys 12345 at the start of the game ; he will bm you mostly too if hes winning


Wow. I was about to come "enlighten" people of my own experiences, having listed 3 GM maphackers from NA. Those being IMNestea, gameofdrone and hrgzack... well thanks, suppose it's me who got taught here. Dunno why the idiot bothers to deny it every time, I've called him hacker on all of those accounts during game, but always he bothers to respond by acting as if he doesn't understand what's being said.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 29 2012 07:23 GMT
#391
Maphackers were pretty rampant in WC3 and TFT, which was a shame. They all got banned eventually, but they prefered to ban in waves rather than as soon as detected, so the high end ladder was rife with hackers sadly.

Hopefully this doesn't become the case in SC2 and Blizzard is a bit more frequent with the banning
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Yoinhell
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada49 Posts
May 29 2012 07:53 GMT
#392
I will be patient with Blizzard. I have a feeling that after this surge of attention hackers are getting today they will make a statement tomorrow. However, I find it kind of irresponsible of them to let this go on so long. Should they not have a team of people scouting for this kind of stuff and implementing hotfixes and bans? It seems to me that the person in charge finds out at the exact same time we do or even after for that matter. Why not hire someone familiar with hacks? I mean anyone of the people from the hacking community probably could of told you about this three months ago. I bet they can even think of a plausible solution.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 08:12:05
May 29 2012 08:02 GMT
#393
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
May 29 2012 10:05 GMT
#394
On May 29 2012 14:54 Vei wrote:
damn why the fuck anyone over the age 15 would hack in an RTS is beyond me

i mean i guess it's not i just feel like.. how can you not feel guilty/bored and want to be legit good, especially since everyone catches you.


It has been said already. Get GM, offer coaching for a moderate price, earn more money than it costs to constantly buy new accounts.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#395
On May 29 2012 11:13 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 10:40 Orracle wrote:
On May 29 2012 09:14 Silvertine wrote:
reddit is on the case

this mofos goin down

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8m4d/na_gm_protoss_streams_himself_while_hacking_and/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/u8po4/grandmaster_player_maphacking_on_na_server_we/



What exactly can Reddit do that TL can't about this? I highly doubt either site can get a single thing accomplished. The problem isn't just this one player, it's Blizzard. Fuck, if by miracle he does get banned within a reasonable time period, he can hop on one of his additional accounts which have already been mentioned and repeat the process. Nothing will change until Blizzard decides to. As they haven't learned from their past, I highly doubt their future looks any different. At this point all you can really do is learn to cope with hackers.


His stream already been reported to Blizzard, i'm sure they will take action against him/ his several accounts. After all, his VODS are on his stream channel.


Yes and then he can get some more new ones and continue. Even if you fix him there are still 10 others to take his place who hide it better.
GeNeSiDe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom354 Posts
May 29 2012 10:14 GMT
#396
Or we could just find his stream, IP track him, and go to his house and teach the fat nerd a lesson.
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 29 2012 10:20 GMT
#397
good topic
hackers ruins the game.
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XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
May 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#398
On May 29 2012 06:12 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 06:00 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:23 ClanWISH wrote:
Legit Gaming has multiple map hackers...


Would you mind providing proof of these multiple map hackers? We are trying really hard to filter and check players joining our A and B team. The following players have been dealt with as soon as we found out they map hacked.


+ Show Spoiler +

LGBolero and LGlightpnwer

LGBolero is now Impa. LGlightpwner is deying that he is hacking but i have replay proof for whoever wants to see it.

I've run across a few in a 4v4 recently who were drop hacking (looks like they did it in a lot of games, not sure about 1v1s though).

The only member who is listed on the website is LGKurtNASTY. The whole team definitely knew about it as well given that they were all spamming shrug faces while the drop screen was counting down. The other players were LGAndroid, LGStrikeR, and LGThisGuy. Ran across them just doing placement matches with some friends, but it seems they do this all the time.


LGlightpnwer definitly hacks. Went 12 pool + drones when he saw I was doing 1 rax FE, and knew where my army was the entire game without taking any watch towers....
Warzilla
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic311 Posts
May 29 2012 10:23 GMT
#399
Lol i played him :D He tried some proxy.. luckly i didnt "adelscotted" it and scouted it in time... it was fun he was thinking i cant micro while responding to his shit he was typing :D Quite frankly he is pretty bad and solid gameplay will beat him even with his noob maphacks... Its just sad, and dont blame blizzard on this we had the same type of thing in CSS, everytime Valve added new formulas of hacks to their VAC there was instantly a new version.. Back then you payed for those hacks and you were warned everytime VAC started detecting it to wait for new version.. I mean what can you do when there is a party of dedicated programmers who constantly write updates for those hacks..
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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:40:04
May 29 2012 10:33 GMT
#400
On May 29 2012 11:13 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 10:51 Virtuous wrote:
On May 29 2012 09:40 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 29 2012 09:26 Virtuous wrote:
On May 29 2012 08:21 Wi)nD wrote:
On May 28 2012 13:30 mTwTT1 wrote:
a few other of his smurfs are: dsninetail, deckuckrockk, daenerys


lol i knew was something up w/ that deckuckkrockk guy, fucking imba reactions lol


Impa is not deckuckkrockk... they do not even sound anything alike

as for him not being a hacker I cant confirm that.. but hes not impa


yea impa doesnt have a smurf but all the other acc's i mentioned are the same person


Could you PM the proof? I'm just curious because I used to be on his team and I know his manager.. if he does on fact hack I would like to make sure he never plays for anyone again


i dont have the reps anymore cus they got overwritten but i comapred their hotkeys


deckuckrock isnt a hacker... hes on my team and afaik he is from China.

oh, and if he is dsninetail, go to http://sc2thegathering.com/ and get the site shut down, apparently he coaches for them
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