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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:00 Leth0 wrote: I'm responding to your response of my response. Responception. You told me that it should be "obvious" as to what happens. I was merely extrapolating on that other guy's premise. If his premise is true (which he supposedly tested), then what I stated should only amplify it. If his premise is false, then what I stated would actually make the engagement worse, not better. | ||
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markrevival
United States222 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:03 markrevival wrote: so now hellions are completely useless vs queens? ffffffffffffff Yep - hellions marines reapers are all useless. Please don't build them in TvZs anymore. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On May 11 2012 04:55 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: Bunker jokes never get old No matter how bad the setup they can always be salvaged. | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:03 FabledIntegral wrote: You told me that it should be "obvious" as to what happens. I was merely extrapolating on that other guy's premise. If his premise is true (which he supposedly tested), then what I stated should only amplify it. If his premise is false, then what I stated would actually make the engagement worse, not better. And my point is. What is the dps of 3 stim marines? What is the dps of 1 queen? How much health do 3 marines w/combat shields after a stim have? How much health does 1 queen and 1 transfuse give? There is the answer, it should be obvious because all those stats are avaible to anyone with the game. And if people want to bring up 'cost efficiency' in this scenario you can't just casually ignore the fact that terran has the ability to micro those marines. | ||
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thurst0n
United States611 Posts
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MigzR
Portugal89 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:05 FairForever wrote: Yep - hellions marines reapers are all useless. Please don't build them in TvZs anymore. LOL if only they wouldn't :D | ||
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Freezd
United States139 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:07 Leth0 wrote: And my point is. What is the dps of 3 stim marines? What is the dps of 1 queen? How much health do 3 marines w/combat shields after a stim have? How much health does 1 queen and 1 transfuse give? There is the answer, it should be obvious because all those stats are avaible to anyone with the game. And if people want to bring up 'cost efficiency' in this scenario you can't just casually ignore the fact that terran has the ability to micro those marines. You can't calculate it like that whatsoever. I'll give you a moment to think about why. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:03 markrevival wrote: so now hellions are completely useless vs queens? ffffffffffffff Yes, I just saw Sheth's stream, and when the Terran made hellions the game just gave the Terran a auto-loss.+ Show Spoiler + Sarcasm for those that doesn't understand | ||
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:14 Dwayn wrote: I love the changes. Zerg didn't have good early scouting and hellions were kind of not balanced. this should help. Makes for a better balanced game imo. They just need to fix the bunker rush now. Eh I think bunker rush is fine, the only thing I wish that would be changed about it is make it easier to right click on the scv, other then that I don't think bunker rushing should be touched as I don't think it's broken or anything. | ||
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
(Also Queen melee attacks are now buffed by ranged attack upgrades rather than melee although I can't remember if this is different from pre-patch.) | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
 i have to play well now please buff terran kthxbai. | ||
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SpaceYeti
United States723 Posts
Also, this will make proxy hatch spine crawler pushes in the lower leagues that much more fun! TY, Blizzard! ♥♥♥ | ||
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ailouros
United States193 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
step 1) Fix early-game TvP step 2) Fix late-game PvT step 3) Give Protoss a non-gimmicky way to deal with Infestor/Broodlord step 4) Give Zerg a reliable way to fend of Protoss all-ins I don't care how you do it, but slightly increasing Queen range is not going to help any of the major problems in any matchup. | ||
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slane04
Canada23 Posts
On May 11 2012 05:17 Kambing wrote: FYI: PDDs now stop the queen melee attack. So under the covers, the visual change is more than just a choice of animation which is kind of neat. Not sure if that's intended by Blizzard although given how things are set up now, it makes sense. Hellion + Raven rush anyone? | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2256 Posts
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