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FCLogan
Profile Joined August 2012
49 Posts
September 05 2012 00:56 GMT
#1521
In the config menu, under the data tab there is an option to download a new database. What does that do?
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
September 05 2012 01:31 GMT
#1522
On September 05 2012 09:56 FCLogan wrote:
In the config menu, under the data tab there is an option to download a new database. What does that do?

I believe it downloads the latest bnet.data file that contains all the league offsets for each server, season start times and max bonuspool...

And as the ladder should already be locked for some servers, the max bonuspool value should be updated soon... For example based on NA web profiles the max pool for NA server seems to be 1081. But NA in-game bonus pools are once again still rising (hopefully this time a display bug in-game and not on web servers). Interesting to see if max pool will be same on EU server.


skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 10:20:40
September 05 2012 10:03 GMT
#1523
On September 05 2012 10:31 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 09:56 FCLogan wrote:
In the config menu, under the data tab there is an option to download a new database. What does that do?

I believe it downloads the latest bnet.data file that contains all the league offsets for each server, season start times and max bonuspool...

And as the ladder should already be locked for some servers, the max bonuspool value should be updated soon... For example based on NA web profiles the max pool for NA server seems to be 1081. But NA in-game bonus pools are once again still rising (hopefully this time a display bug in-game and not on web servers). Interesting to see if max pool will be same on EU server.



Yes. The file is automatic updated on programstart too. ( i only update it when new season hits!)


normal ( in all past season ) the maximum bonuspool it the same for all servers.
My Program need this so hope its not different this time.
I check and put this value as maximum in the bnet file ..


EDIT:
Done 1081 is the maximum of season 8
( yes 8, the change to start with the year is only cosmetic and blizzard intern still counts up, so do i)
Save gaming: kill esport
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
September 05 2012 10:21 GMT
#1524
On September 05 2012 19:03 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:31 korona wrote:
On September 05 2012 09:56 FCLogan wrote:
In the config menu, under the data tab there is an option to download a new database. What does that do?

I believe it downloads the latest bnet.data file that contains all the league offsets for each server, season start times and max bonuspool...

And as the ladder should already be locked for some servers, the max bonuspool value should be updated soon... For example based on NA web profiles the max pool for NA server seems to be 1081. But NA in-game bonus pools are once again still rising (hopefully this time a display bug in-game and not on web servers). Interesting to see if max pool will be same on EU server.



Yes. The file is automatic updated on programstart too. ( i only update it when new season hits!)


normal ( in all past season ) the maximum bonuspool it the same for all servers.
My Program need this so hope its not different this time.
I check and put this value as maximum in the bnet file ..


EDIT:
Done 1081 is the maximum of season 8


Yes in the past they had same max pool for every server. But now it seems it ain't so for s8. EU web profiles now show 1079 and it has not changed since morning. So it most likely is 1081 for NA, 1079 for EU and something for others.

(and also EU ingame counter seems to be bugged as it is still rising like NA was earlier when I checked for the previous post. Hopefully a display bug).
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 05 2012 10:25 GMT
#1525
On September 05 2012 19:21 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 19:03 skeldark wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:31 korona wrote:
On September 05 2012 09:56 FCLogan wrote:
In the config menu, under the data tab there is an option to download a new database. What does that do?

I believe it downloads the latest bnet.data file that contains all the league offsets for each server, season start times and max bonuspool...

And as the ladder should already be locked for some servers, the max bonuspool value should be updated soon... For example based on NA web profiles the max pool for NA server seems to be 1081. But NA in-game bonus pools are once again still rising (hopefully this time a display bug in-game and not on web servers). Interesting to see if max pool will be same on EU server.



Yes. The file is automatic updated on programstart too. ( i only update it when new season hits!)


normal ( in all past season ) the maximum bonuspool it the same for all servers.
My Program need this so hope its not different this time.
I check and put this value as maximum in the bnet file ..


EDIT:
Done 1081 is the maximum of season 8


Yes in the past they had same max pool for every server. But now it seems it ain't so for s8. EU web profiles now show 1079 and it has not changed since morning. So it most likely is 1081 for NA, 1079 for EU and something for others.

(and also EU ingame counter seems to be bugged as it is still rising like NA was earlier when I checked for the previous post. Hopefully a display bug).

Thats a problem!
a big one. My program have no trigger for different max pool for different servers!
had to rewrite the bonus calculation completely in this case!

Save gaming: kill esport
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 10:45:08
September 05 2012 10:35 GMT
#1526
Checked NA in-game profiles again. Confirming that rising bonuspool in-game is a display bug in NA. Max in-game is now "1091", but profiles that should have spent all, have all 10 bonus left --> Max pool for NA is 1081 like web profiles show.

Confirming EU in-game bonuspool display bug too. It shows 1083 max at the moment and 5 bonus is left on profiles where all should be spent. BUT that gives --> 1078 as max pool, not 1079 like the web profiles say. So there seems to be wrong value on EU web servers for max pool :/

(edit: added EU info)
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 10:53:52
September 05 2012 10:43 GMT
#1527
On September 05 2012 19:35 korona wrote:
Checked NA in-game profiles again. Confirming that rising bonuspool in-game is a display bug in NA. Max in-game is now "1091", but profiles that should have spent all, have all 10 bonus left --> Max pool for NA is 1081 like web profiles show.

K thx i will rewirte the program to handle different seasonends.
When i rewirte this part i will put in the different seasonstarts as well.

If eu is wrong on the spend bonuspool at the webpage i can only hardcode correct that.
And i dont want to do so because i had to hardcode remove it again when fixed.
Save gaming: kill esport
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 11:48:43
September 05 2012 11:26 GMT
#1528
UPDATE:

5.9 OUT. Including hotfix for new blizzard bugs.
Some bugs in ladder cant be fixed on my end!
US: looks fine
EU: BUG!
KR: not locked yet
Sea: Unkown
We have to wait for blizzard to fix it! ( if they noticed its bugged and be able to fix it and care to fix it)

I will "disable" all versions under 5.9 because they would upload and show bad data!
I am sorry, that there are so many bugs in last time but they are not on my end.
I try to fix it on my end every-time blizzard fucks up but this guys produce them faster than i can fix...

Save gaming: kill esport
Namelless
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany38 Posts
September 05 2012 13:35 GMT
#1529
what does this mean exactly for EU-players?

i downloaded the new version. should i disable tracking games, till you say everything is fine again?
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
September 05 2012 14:40 GMT
#1530
On September 05 2012 22:35 Namelless wrote:
what does this mean exactly for EU-players?

i downloaded the new version. should i disable tracking games, till you say everything is fine again?

The error on EU seems to be only 1 point larger bonus pool according to the web profiles than it should be. I would keep tracking games (the error is so small). This error e.g. is much much smaller than the error between 25th and 30th August when Blizzard incorrectly locked max bonus pool on web profiles (those games should be marked as bad).
Namelless
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany38 Posts
September 05 2012 15:33 GMT
#1531
is there a possibility to mark games as good, if i marked them manually as bad before?

sorry dude, i was 2 fast because of fear of bad/wrong results (who could knew that you will answer so fast :p )

sry for my bad english, no native speaker
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 19:41:26
September 05 2012 19:38 GMT
#1532
On September 06 2012 00:33 Namelless wrote:
is there a possibility to mark games as good, if i marked them manually as bad before?

sorry dude, i was 2 fast because of fear of bad/wrong results (who could knew that you will answer so fast :p )

sry for my bad english, no native speaker

There is no such option in the program.
But you can do it by hand.
If you open the games.dat. look for the "0" directly after your bnetlink and replace it with a 1.
Thats the marker if your data is good.
Make sure to edit the file with a editor that can handle utf-8 (like notepad++) not windows-notepad

All data files can be found in:
Sc2gears\User Content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\

Save gaming: kill esport
Namelless
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany38 Posts
September 06 2012 02:45 GMT
#1533
is there any way i can support your work?
thought about spending some small amount of money
thought about copy+pasty all the questions the user asked in the thread including your answers to a textfile, give it to you, so you can sort it and make a "real FAQ" because thats the one and only not perfect thing about your work, but i am not sure if i could accomplish it, because there are already SO much sites/posts/questions in this thread, but if you would like to, i would at least try it


thank you both a lot for theese incredibly fast and detailed answers
that you, skeldark even edited your post is just amazing
(i used the editor and it seemed to work and just downloaded notepad++ to look at it and on the gamesdat to see if it worked and if it could be more usefull, but its just overloaded for users like me WhO just wanna edit some textfiles)

thanks you guys a lot
for just everything about this program, especially all your heart and soul you put into coding and supporting

it gave me a lot more fun on playing laddergames, and in succession a lot more constant activity in sc2 at all (played much custom 1v1 lowmaps before, but not that constantly) combined with filtersc (best terra guide out so far not only imo) it made me _much_ more active than i was on the computer (at everything) any time before
its just so unbelieveble motivating _and_ worthwile too to see where you move around with your skill and how fast/slow it increases (combined with content like top mentioned)

most useful (especially unexpected useful) program i have installed on my computer up to now

sorry for my bad english again, i tried a lot to avoid heavy misstakes and searched for a lot of words, so i hope everything is at least understandable
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 09:29:52
September 06 2012 09:28 GMT
#1534
On September 06 2012 11:45 Namelless wrote:
is there any way i can support your work?
thought about spending some small amount of money
thought about copy+pasty all the questions the user asked in the thread including your answers to a textfile, give it to you, so you can sort it and make a "real FAQ" because thats the one and only not perfect thing about your work, but i am not sure if i could accomplish it, because there are already SO much sites/posts/questions in this thread, but if you would like to, i would at least try it


thank you both a lot for theese incredibly fast and detailed answers
that you, skeldark even edited your post is just amazing
(i used the editor and it seemed to work and just downloaded notepad++ to look at it and on the gamesdat to see if it worked and if it could be more usefull, but its just overloaded for users like me WhO just wanna edit some textfiles)

thanks you guys a lot
for just everything about this program, especially all your heart and soul you put into coding and supporting

it gave me a lot more fun on playing laddergames, and in succession a lot more constant activity in sc2 at all (played much custom 1v1 lowmaps before, but not that constantly) combined with filtersc (best terra guide out so far not only imo) it made me _much_ more active than i was on the computer (at everything) any time before
its just so unbelieveble motivating _and_ worthwile too to see where you move around with your skill and how fast/slow it increases (combined with content like top mentioned)

most useful (especially unexpected useful) program i have installed on my computer up to now

sorry for my bad english again, i tried a lot to avoid heavy misstakes and searched for a lot of words, so i hope everything is at least understandable




1) how to support my work:

Donations:
If you like the program and want to donate money,
take this money and give it to to the next person you see, who really needs it.
Dont forget it


That was no joke. I mean it!

2) notedpad ++
You dont have to use any of this million functions.
But if you open a file with it and save it again, it make sure it stay in the original format ( linux / windows / mac ) and the language it was saved in. Notepad from windows cant do that. (Its a lot faster too)

3) Thank you very much! I had a lot of fun creating it.

4) Dont worry, if you did not notice yet, my english is not better
Save gaming: kill esport
FCLogan
Profile Joined August 2012
49 Posts
September 07 2012 01:56 GMT
#1535
Your plugin should get very accurate next season once you update the database! Blizzard is removing all ladder tiers - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 02:36:25
September 07 2012 02:32 GMT
#1536
On September 07 2012 10:56 FCLogan wrote:
Your plugin should get very accurate next season once you update the database! Blizzard is removing all ladder tiers - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012.

OMG

i should be happy but im worryed.
What i know about blizzard i have the feeling they will fuck us up some way.
Thats to good to be true.

Also:

"After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players"
They open lie in the post again!
Save gaming: kill esport
Whirligig
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom77 Posts
September 07 2012 02:46 GMT
#1537
Oh my, this division tier change is awesome. Looks like you successfully made the case for change skeldark, well done!
FCLogan
Profile Joined August 2012
49 Posts
September 07 2012 03:08 GMT
#1538
On September 07 2012 11:32 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:56 FCLogan wrote:
Your plugin should get very accurate next season once you update the database! Blizzard is removing all ladder tiers - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012.

OMG

i should be happy but im worryed.
What i know about blizzard i have the feeling they will fuck us up some way.
Thats to good to be true.

Also:

"After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players"
They open lie in the post again!



I am so close to a diamond promotion (1582 rating per your plugin). With these changes, there is a chance I won't be diamond next season! Still, the transparency makes up for all of that! As long as they don't screw it up of course!
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
September 07 2012 04:54 GMT
#1539
On September 07 2012 11:32 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:56 FCLogan wrote:
Your plugin should get very accurate next season once you update the database! Blizzard is removing all ladder tiers - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7157308/Season_8_Now_Locked_and_Big_Changes_Coming_Next_Season-9_6_2012.

OMG

i should be happy but im worryed.
What i know about blizzard i have the feeling they will fuck us up some way.
Thats to good to be true.

Also:

"After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players"
They open lie in the post again!

Fingers crossed that they don't change league offsets or how the MMR system works, but only reduce the number of skill tiers for each league to one... So we don't need to figure it out how the new system works. Seems like a great change if the number of skill tiers is reduced and nothing else changes.

Btw. interesting to see that most posters in the 'Season 8 Lock and new Ladder changes incoming' thread seem not to understand what skill tiers mean and believe Blizzard's marketing text that "#2 in some division would mean top 2% for whole league"
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
September 07 2012 09:51 GMT
#1540
On September 07 2012 13:54 korona wrote:
Fingers crossed that they don't change league offsets or how the MMR system works, but only reduce the number of skill tiers for each league to one... So we don't need to figure it out how the new system works. Seems like a great change if the number of skill tiers is reduced and nothing else changes.


Indeed. Big step in the right direction by Blizzard and kudos to them for that. Now they just need to switch over from points and bonus pool to MMR and the ladder system will be perfect. =)
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