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Analyst M. Pachter Makes Prediction on E-Sports - Page 2

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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#21
On February 19 2012 10:45 Razzik wrote:
You people should watch


the very first seconds will make any SC2 fan rage.

It is Pachter btw.


RTS are single player and turn based? Goddam, I see what you mean ROFL
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Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
February 19 2012 01:56 GMT
#22
So basically eSports is going to follow Moore's law for the next 10 years in terms of fans. That is extremely unlikely.
Frozenzen
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden97 Posts
February 19 2012 01:57 GMT
#23
Pachter is pretty much never right.
Desolat
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
February 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#24
This guy knows nothing, he also has a track record of being wrong to prove it.
What is this
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
February 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#25
On February 19 2012 10:46 kakaman wrote:
I've never heard of Wedbush Morgan, it is def not a leading financial services firm. Also, I would wager that WNBA still has more fans than Esports does. I would say Esports is similar to billiards/bowling in terms of viewership, and the optimistic case would be MMA/UFC.


I think the OP confused Wedbush Morgan with JP Morgan, cas then it would make more sense.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 19 2012 02:01 GMT
#26
On February 19 2012 10:58 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:46 kakaman wrote:
I've never heard of Wedbush Morgan, it is def not a leading financial services firm. Also, I would wager that WNBA still has more fans than Esports does. I would say Esports is similar to billiards/bowling in terms of viewership, and the optimistic case would be MMA/UFC.


I think the OP confused Wedbush Morgan with JP Morgan, cas then it would make more sense.


I copied that part of his biography from here http://stars.ign.com/objects/001/001067.html
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
February 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#27
Isn't this the guy who's wrong about pretty much everything? Like so wrong that gaming blogs make reference to his name as a joke?

I really hope this guy is right on a prediction for once...
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:06:43
February 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#28
What credentials does this guy have?

To say Esports is comparable to college basketball, well, it seems laughable. Even the WNBA seems out of our league(lol pun). The only possible way these are comparable is by taking our largest events and comparing them to their regular season. I would be very surprised if the WNBA finals was getting less then a couple million viewers, and that's far beyond what any esport events gets, let alone comparing it to March Madness.

A better comparison is women's collehge basketball imo.
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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:16:07
February 19 2012 02:05 GMT
#29
Esports can easily grow 100% a year the next ten years i think.
Maybe reason why some companys try so hard atm to get in on it.
Esport will be a competitor for other "real life" sports, its only a matter of time.
The younger generation now who watch and like esports will still do so when they get 30 and 40 and 50.
Thoose people wont suddenly turn to watching tennis or golf or soccer for 100% while never watching esports annymore.
So its only a matter of time till the older generation, (thoose who never watch esports) has been replaced by the now still young generation who does like esports.
Only thing that can threaten esports growth if is the youth will suddenly stop liking video games and start liking something else wich is extremely unlikely atm and for the next 10 years.

Computer games have gotten alot less nerdy in the past 10 years.
Wow and latest generation consoles changed so much.
Gaming became a thing for the whole family.
Games are alot more mainstream now and socially accepted, its almost like a "normal" sports,
Not quiet but its coming closer every day.
just look at the barcraft examples.
instead of going to pub with friends to watch a championsleague final, people go to see starcraft.


GO GO Esports
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
February 19 2012 02:06 GMT
#30
On February 19 2012 10:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Um, what?


College basketball has about 50x as many viewers as Esports as a whole does.



Are you serious? He's making an example and he's not writing in a literal sense. It's blatantly obvious he's drawing a comparison.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
February 19 2012 02:07 GMT
#31
GT is the worst in credibility for anything that they do. Don't listen to a thing they say. He had more swtor then any other game in his esports stock footage. as much as I'd like to rejoice in this it really doesn't mean anything.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 19 2012 02:08 GMT
#32
On February 19 2012 11:06 cozzE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Um, what?


College basketball has about 50x as many viewers as Esports as a whole does.



Are you serious? He's making an example and he's not writing in a literal sense. It's blatantly obvious he's drawing a comparison.

It seems like a pretty absurd example in any sense.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 19 2012 02:08 GMT
#33
Sounds a bit too good to be true. I think there's definitely room for growth, but double for 10 years? I wish~
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:10:35
February 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#34
Apparently this is the guy:

Michael Pachter is the Managing Director, Equity Research providing coverage across the Digital Media sector and Head of Research for the Private Shares Group. He has been recognized as StarMine’s “Top Earnings Estimator” year after year and “Best on the Street” by the Wall Street Journal. Michael brings over 20 years of experience as a financial professional to the Private Shares Group along with extensive knowledge across the social media sector in both public and private companies. Mr. Pachter holds an M.B.A. from the Anderson School at the University of California at Los Angeles, a juris doctor from Pepperdine University, an LL.M. in Taxation from the University of Florida, and a bachelor’s in Political Science from California State University, Northridge.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
February 19 2012 02:11 GMT
#35
Pachter is such a joke.
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
February 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#36
wow didnt knew a Pentium 3.2 was 2 Grand... Guess i should have got a another PS3 to play Starcraft on as its the best single player turn based real time strategie game.
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
Grohg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States243 Posts
February 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#37
This guy is retarded most of the time. He actually was encouraging micro-transaction games and saying that it was the best model out there for making a successful game. Unfortunately, in a sense he was right in the fact that f2p games with a micro-transaction system are extremely popular given the free aspect but for actual quality in a game, I don't think that's the correct method at all. I like how he says consoles are the best systems because PS3 and Xbox360 are better than 85/90% of PCs (assuming this was made around the time Crysis came out). What's sad is that most PCs aren't used for gaming and that comparison is pointless. I don't mean to sound negative but this guy is definitely the wrong person to listen to about future gaming predictions. He is constantly ridiculed for his audacious claims and frankly gets more wrong than right.
You can't spell slaughter without laughter.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:23:11
February 19 2012 02:21 GMT
#38
Hmm hes wrong about consoles then i hope.
Maybe they best for the business since they can sell a new model every 1-2 year and still sell pc,s as well,but they terrible for gaming, well at least i personally hate them.
How can one even game without a keyboard ?:s
Though maybe hes even right about this unfortunatly, consoles seem to be popular in the biggest and most important market (the usa) and they probably apeal more to the casual gamer or people who only game verry little then pc games do.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 19 2012 02:23 GMT
#39
I don't think that a three minute video of occasional things he has over-exaggerated completely invalidates his opinion. While I do think this is an over-estimate, that video of his mistakes should not suddenly make everything he says wrong. He does happen to have a more important games analyst job than anyone posting in here, and that should mean something.
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
February 19 2012 02:24 GMT
#40
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