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lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#41
So he's like Fionn X2? Doesn't bode well for us...
dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
February 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#42
Does this guy even realize how big NCAA basketball is? It's just as big as the NBA, if not bigger...
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Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
February 19 2012 02:31 GMT
#43
double every 2 years for the next 10 years?

that basically means that a tournament which has 100,000 viewers today, will have 3.2 million viewers in 10 years....
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
February 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#44
On February 19 2012 10:45 Razzik wrote:
You people should watch


the very first seconds will make any SC2 fan rage.

It is Pachter btw.


"ps3 is stronger then 95% of the computers out there"

"xbox 360 is stronger then 85% of the computers out there"

.... "inserts foot into idiots jaw"

I think this guy has a negative impact on esports because he is such an idiot.
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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:38:41
February 19 2012 02:33 GMT
#45
well the highest number of vieuwers an esports activity had was like 50k when starcraft just came out
The highest amount of vieuwers i have recently seen was 200k people watching a lol game (wats in a name) and then we dont even count all the vieuwers, only the ones on one (western) stream
So thats already doubled every year during the past 2 years?
3.2m seems like a stretch, definatly in 10 years but is it realy impossible?

100kx2^10 would be 100 million btw wich seems completely rediculous but i can easily imagine 1m vieuwers for some esports event 10 years from now
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
February 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#46
On February 19 2012 10:30 confusedcrib wrote:
    2. E-sports is comparable to College Basketball


*College Baseball
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 19 2012 02:39 GMT
#47
On February 19 2012 11:02 hmunkey wrote:
Isn't this the guy who's wrong about pretty much everything? Like so wrong that gaming blogs make reference to his name as a joke?

I really hope this guy is right on a prediction for once...


Fans of specific systems and bloggers like to give Pachter shit because he speaks his mind and doesn't sugar coat anything. If he is wrong, he will be the first to admit it. But he will go one step further, explain why he thought what he did and what data he missed that made him wrong.

Pachter gets paid a lot of money(and works very very very hard, watch the video on his average day to see) and is right a lot of the time. He is extreamly good at what he does and is very respected in the financial industry. If he says E-sports has a future and solid growth, it means that it was worth this time to look at. That is a really good sign for Esports as a whole, because it means someone wanted(and likely paid) Pachter to look at it. He is also well respected and liked in the gaming industry for making very blunt, to the point calls.

I am sure anyone running a league would love for a few hours of Mr. Pachter's time to discuss the future of Esports.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:42:35
February 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#48
E-sport is officially doomed if this guy thinks it isn't.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#49
On February 19 2012 11:38 Encrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:30 confusedcrib wrote:
    2. E-sports is comparable to College Basketball


*College Baseball


My mistake, thank you so much for the correction
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
February 19 2012 02:47 GMT
#50
On February 19 2012 10:30 confusedcrib wrote:
Edit: My mistake, he compares to college baseball, not basketball. I misheard him. Special thanks to Encrypto for noticing


HUGE difference there lol. Was about to say how this analyst guys was nuts! I know very little about college baseball except that the NCAA championships might make it on ESPN or ESPN2 whenever they occur once a year.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 19 2012 02:49 GMT
#51
On February 19 2012 11:32 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:45 Razzik wrote:
You people should watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNnJqJ9hO4w

the very first seconds will make any SC2 fan rage.

It is Pachter btw.


"ps3 is stronger then 95% of the computers out there"

"xbox 360 is stronger then 85% of the computers out there"

.... "inserts foot into idiots jaw"

I think this guy has a negative impact on esports because he is such an idiot.


That video is a joke. A bunch of fanboys cutting together a few times Pachter misspoke into a video. They take a guy who is a lawyer training and spend the most of the time looking at market trends, effective marketing and things that have nothing to do if this PC is better than that counsel. They leave out the part where they ask a panel what the number one selling game this year will be and Pachter answers with the exact game, number of units solid, profit and projected sales until the end of the year. Per counsel and over all.

Pachter is a pretty smart guy, just don't ask him to build a computer.
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
February 19 2012 02:50 GMT
#52
eSports will grow, but that doesn't mean SC2 will : \
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:03:23
February 19 2012 02:53 GMT
#53
esports is not only sc2 :3. And with ingame streams and advanced observing tools its quiet likely that more people will spectate. Especially if they will reach tv ... i watched tf2 ... and guildwars pvp without ever having played those games. (keeping my hands of some games because i know it will drain my time >.< ). So its a save bet to say this basically ... seeing how games throw out their 1m dollar tournament at the start, where no one wants to miss one team that found out the biggest imbalance and abuses it to win. No i am not talking about the reaper, holding beta reapers was easy as pie. (the follow up marauders were a bit tougher to deal with lol).
Not a fangirl though if games would become more popular (and casual) tempts devs to become like EA. (well not the devs but their bosses) But esport can do what it wants, if games get tainted by greed, they become bad, if they are bad they are easily replaced by a small team of devs. So there is nothing to worry about for me. Even EA has something good, they keep casuals away from ruining the good games.

And well everyone knows the hardware in the pcs is way better then in the ps3, but the advantage of the ps3 is that there are no differences in hardware. Well that was before microsoft ruined console games. The general rule now multi platform games use the pc. (xbox and ps3 programming is so different, making it run on both really makes the ps3 look shabby, as programming for xbox is easier but well doesn't give the output to battle the raw power of a computer).
But if you explain it to casuals, of course you say that the ps3 is better, they don't need more information. When i talk to people on why multiplatforming sucks for the ps3 and explain it detailed, they get this blank look, bit of a sadistic streak of mine.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
February 19 2012 02:54 GMT
#54
I'll just say this. Those who can and do accurately predict future events keep their mouth shut and make money by aligning their monetary bets (trades/investments) with their predictions. Those who can't blab to the public.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 19 2012 02:54 GMT
#55
On February 19 2012 11:47 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:30 confusedcrib wrote:
Edit: My mistake, he compares to college baseball, not basketball. I misheard him. Special thanks to Encrypto for noticing


HUGE difference there lol. Was about to say how this analyst guys was nuts! I know very little about college baseball except that the NCAA championships might make it on ESPN or ESPN2 whenever they occur once a year.


Yeah i can almost take the guy seriously now. Second i saw he compared it to college basketball i just deemed him a moron. Let's just say i don't foresee people feverishly filling out March Madness brackets for SC2 or LOL in the future.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
February 19 2012 02:56 GMT
#56
I hope that this growth he speculates will be true. I'm giving a good effort to do what I can to spread the cause, let's hope everyone else will as well.
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Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 19 2012 02:56 GMT
#57
"He also says that the most important part of E-sports is building a competitive community where everyone can easily compare their skill levels"

Sounds like b.net ladder is leading the way
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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:00:19
February 19 2012 02:57 GMT
#58
Comparable to college basketball? That's laughable. College basketball has hundreds of thousands (if not 1 million+) live spectators every week at arenas throughout the country plus millions more view on TV. E-sports is nowhere close to this and never will be.

Edit: Oh, baseball? I guess that's a little more reasonable, but still pretty far off considering how many live spectated games are played on any given day during the season.
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:00:00
February 19 2012 02:58 GMT
#59
On February 19 2012 11:06 cozzE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:43 1Eris1 wrote:
Um, what?


College basketball has about 50x as many viewers as Esports as a whole does.



Are you serious? He's making an example and he's not writing in a literal sense. It's blatantly obvious he's drawing a comparison.



Well it's an awful example/comparison then because the two are nothing like eachother. Even the WNBA draws far more attention than Esports as a whole. (at least in the US)


edit: Just saw that he meant College Baseball, not Basketball. lawllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. That's definetely a much closer comparison, but I'd still say CB has a higher overall viewership
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heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#60
one of the most difficult things comparing computer games to real life activities is if you suck at starcraft, it is hard to enjoy playing the game. whereas if you suck at basketball you can still run around with your friends and have a good time, even if you make 0 shots.

also the learning curve is just too steep for most non-players to grasp the concept of what's going on in the game.

anyways i love this game and hope the culture stays alive at least in korea.
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