Foreigners' Seeds in the GSL - Page 9

On February 01 2012 07:40 rafaliusz wrote:

Sen's been a part of our foreign scene and has been participating in out events for roughly 10 years. You may not remember that tho.He is a foreigner by all means and he represents me.
Agree on the chinese part tho, their scene always been separated from foreign one but I'm still interested how would chinese players do against koreans.

On February 01 2012 00:44 pStar wrote:
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May seem harsh, but just my opinion.

On February 01 2012 07:48 Fus wrote:
Stop seeding foreigners, it's racism

On February 01 2012 08:49 Zyphen wrote:


Huh? You realize Sen is chinese right? And chinese aren't "foreigners"? I know what you're trying to say but cognitive dissonance permeates throughout the board on this subject.

Sen is more acceptable to most people because he speaks English and participates in more western events (especially in recent years) than other pros from China/Taiwan. Someone like Select is accepted similarly along those lines. Though, if you read enough posts, you'll realize there's a fine distinction made by most people, which sometimes get spelled out by the more honest (Select is ethnically Korean). If you truly believe Sen represents "foreigners", you're in the minority along with me. Congratulations for having, in my opinion, a more enlightened view.

Take the reaction to today's results for example. The vast majority of comments both here and in the GSL thread are about how Huk and Idra lost, not how Sen won. I guarantee you that people would be much less gloomy if say Sen and Huk lost and Idra won. Don't be naive. Take a look at who make up the fan bases, how big their fanclubs are, and how many people even choose to acknowledge Sen's accomplishments for the foreign scene vs an Idra or Huk or Jinro or Naniwa, etc... I posed a question about people's responses to Loner (chinese player) back in GSL's infancy and I got some very honest responses (which I appreciate). If you care to read them, they're probably still attached to my post history. People identify by race/ethnicity, culture, and language, in that order.

On February 01 2012 09:01 Sub40APM wrote:
So are Huk and Idra leaving Korea or are they going to try to Jinro it back to GSL? I think the problem with the whole foreigner thing -- as someone else pointed out in this thread -- is that foreigners lack the infrastructure to just go and sit around on the Korean ladder for 6 months before actually playing a televised game. And if that is the reality then why not go back to NA where the pickings are easy and they can finish top 10 at an MLG, especially if the best Koreans dont come out because of GSL commitments, and collect a steady paycheck and a successful stream revenue? As semi-pro streamers like Destiny show its possible to make a pretty solid revenue stream without ever actually being a consistently good player.

On February 01 2012 09:02 Dexington wrote:


Sen is Taiwanese