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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
What would you consider a "Rookie league"? A gamer who uses competitive gaming as their sole source of income (streaming excluded). This does not refer to someone who games all the time and attains some level of skill; being a pro gamer means you use it as your profession, and that you actually do earn money. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
edit: On January 11 2012 14:59 dAPhREAk wrote: i think you are mistaking the word expert and professional. you can do a certain profession, but not be an expert in the specific field. | ||
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Cambam
United States360 Posts
...Damn it! | ||
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:02 RezChi wrote: What would you consider a "Rookie league"? A gamer who uses competitive gaming as their sole source of income (streaming excluded). This does not refer to someone who games all the time and attains some level of skill; being a pro gamer means you use it as your profession, and that you actually do earn money. I urge you to read Efforts post again. Then read my quote with the correction. If you still don't get it now, then PM me  Edit: On January 11 2012 15:06 Cambam wrote: One who writes code for software; a computer scientist. ...Damn it! That is a programmer o.o | ||
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bpat
United States157 Posts
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GrapeD
Canada679 Posts
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Kar98
Australia924 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:07 MarCoon wrote: I urge you to read Efforts post again. Then read my quote with the correction. If you still don't get it now, then PM me Edit: That is a programmer o.o I think you missed the sacasm  Progamer is someone who makes enough money for a living IMO | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:29 Ares[Effort] wrote: Someone who has passed Courage league and then drafted by a professional team Pretty much this, I really do hope we have something like this for SC2 | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:02 eScaper-tsunami wrote: So you're saying that, you can do a certain profession, not be an expert but still call yourself a professional? edit: yes. of course you can. people do it all the time. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
While you could reduce a pro-gamer to an occupation, like someone who works at McDonald's or a 9-5 job in some sprawling corporate bureacracy, that doesn't really fit. Is an artist only someone who survives off of their art or is an artist someone who is passionate and dedicated to their trade? As we see from the various levels of pro-gaming, so much of the job is about how much you decide to put into it. How much practice, sacrifice, energy, how much of yourself you invest in it. For the top level of players who make a good living off of their gaming, you could say its just money, but what about everyone else? If we include the others who don't make quite as much, it means that pro-gaming could also be defined by that self-investment and willingness to self-sacrifice in order to make it. Just my thoughts... | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:16 dAPhREAk wrote: yes. of course you can. people do it all the time. I'm an expert on bullshitting, but I'm no professional. | ||
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PeZuY
935 Posts
Pro-gamers are people who can play games e.x Starcraft 2 for full time and make living out of it. If someone is focusing more into work than into game, even how good player he might be, I can't consider him as a professional gamer. | ||
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BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:16 dAPhREAk wrote: yes. of course you can. people do it all the time. Well, where I live... to become a professional engineer (p.eng) and to market oneself as a professional engineer, you need to apply and take an exam. You can practice as an engineer without it but marketing yourself as a professional is a giant lawsuit waiting to happen. This is true with many other professions, such as accountant, plumber (other trades included), bartenders, lawyers and the list goes on. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:25 eScaper-tsunami wrote: Well, where I live... to become a professional engineer (p.eng) and to market oneself as a professional engineer, you need to apply and take an exam. You can practice as an engineer without it but marketing yourself as a professional is a giant lawsuit waiting to happen. This is true with many other professions, such as accountant, plumber (other trades included), bartenders, lawyers and the list goes on. Thing is there is no requirement to become a progamer, if a team picks you up when your bronze and you make it your main source of income your a progamer as in you do it for a profession don't confuse being pro with actually being good at the game. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
But I feel like the amateur title should be given more in place of progamer sometimes. There's lots of progamers that play like 20 games a day and then there's really hardworking serious progamers that play like 50-60 games a day. ><" | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:25 eScaper-tsunami wrote: Well, where I live... to become a professional engineer (p.eng) and to market oneself as a professional engineer, you need to apply and take an exam. You can practice as an engineer without it but marketing yourself as a professional is a giant lawsuit waiting to happen. This is true with many other professions, such as accountant, plumber (other trades included), bartenders, lawyers and the list goes on. i think you are missing the point. you can be a professional (albeit a p.eng) and still not be an expert in your field. being licensed does not make you an expert, although it usually allows you to practice the profession. its all semantics anyways. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:28 MHT wrote: Thing is there is no requirement to become a progamer, if a team picks you up when your bronze and you make it your main source of income your a progamer as in you do it for a profession don't confuse being pro with actually being good at the game. I'm confused by your explanation, you said there are no requirements to become a progamer yet you stated that you need a team to pick you up..... And are you a progamer if your source of income is ONLY from a team paying you? If so I guess in SC2 a lot of GSL players aren't pros by your definition. edit: On January 11 2012 15:41 dAPhREAk wrote: i think you are missing the point. you can be a professional (albeit a p.eng) and still not be an expert in your field. being licensed does not make you an expert, although it usually allows you to practice the profession. its all semantics anyways. I think you misunderstood my point.... First of all I think the word expert is only making the matter more confusing. Second, I understand things vary from one place to another, but in Canada you can practice engineering by calling yourself an engineer without a p.eng, you just can't market yourself as a professional engineer without it. | ||
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
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