• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:00
CET 02:00
KST 10:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 902 users

What's your definition for pro-gamer?

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
phzbox
Profile Joined December 2011
Cape Verde38 Posts
January 11 2012 01:46 GMT
#1
Is it someone who earn money to play the game? (Gold player who teach bronze league could earn a lot if he's a good coach and know how to sell himself/herself).

Is it someone who play and achieve high rank in tournament?

Is it someone who's widely known by the community?

My definition would be "To be paid to play in a respected clan".

Btw, it's a bit like how to define a pianist? I mean, I've played in some weddings (got paid for) and enjoy playing. I've also taught people.. but I don't consider myself a pianist. If I was in a band who'd pay me to play (even if I was less good!), I think I'd say I'm a pianist.

What do you think?

I ask that because I often see gamers such as CatZ being asked "Do you want to become a pro-gamer like Idra or Destiny IIRC". I'm sure someone can link the video of Catz being mad to that question xD
Rhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooouwuz (Overlord spawning)
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 01:48:54
January 11 2012 01:48 GMT
#2
pro gamer would be someone who makes money for playing games
coaches are paid to coach, not to play
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
January 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#3
I think the definition is pretty strait forward. Pro or professional meaning it is something you do for a living. Really even if you are making money off of it then I would say you are a professional gamer. Doesn't have to be tournament money either. It could just as easily be income from streaming.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#4
somebody who plays the game professionally (i.e., for a living).
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#5
On January 11 2012 10:48 kazie wrote:
pro gamer would be someone who makes money for playing games
coaches are paid to coach, not to play


What he said :D
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#6
Paid to play. That's about it.
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#7
On January 11 2012 10:51 iSometric wrote:
Paid to play. That's about it.

agreed, but too simplistic. i won a $5 tournament once (4th place), but i am nowhere near progamer. you have to be someone who can sustain your lifestyle off the money. if you can't, you are not a professional player in my mind.
Spinbot
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada46 Posts
January 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#8
Pro, short for professional, as in, this is their profession. You are a pro gamer when playing the game is your job. You are semi-pro when your income is not mostly based from playing starcraft2. This is the same as a pro hockey player, a pro volleyball player. Any other person who isnt playing as a professional is considered recreational, even if you are in grandmasters and spend unhealthy amounts of time on this game.


Kazie is incorrect. You can be a pro through coaching if it is your entire means of income and you consider it a job. You would be a pro coach.
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
January 11 2012 01:56 GMT
#9
Some one who takes the game seriously, who respects the competition and the opponents.
Play Terran
nugget-92
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia83 Posts
January 11 2012 01:57 GMT
#10
Someone whose sole income is Starcraft II.


Also they don't probe rush.
Well, the tomato's an anomaly. So successful with the ketchup and the sauce, but you can't find a good one.
YipCraft
Profile Joined July 2011
United States216 Posts
January 11 2012 01:57 GMT
#11
Someone who obeys all the rules =D.
felleN
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia67 Posts
January 11 2012 02:00 GMT
#12
a korean
"I am fucking godly at, like, fucking god. AHHHH" -combatEX
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
January 11 2012 02:00 GMT
#13
Pro-gamer - someone who pursues a game, trains and practices. It is basically their occupation.
Program yourself to Success
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
January 11 2012 02:01 GMT
#14
Simple - Those who have a progaming license
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
January 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#15
IF you make a living off playing, you are by definition a pro-gamer. You may get paid winning minor tournaments but that doesn't make you a pro. By definition, professional means it is your main source of income.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
January 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#16
Someone, whom is paid to do what he is; gamer - as the way of making a living.
LiangHao
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada646 Posts
January 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#17
On January 11 2012 11:01 SkimGuy wrote:
Simple - Those who have a progaming license


Trololololol

User was warned for this post
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 11 2012 02:06 GMT
#18
Someone who makes their living from playing competitive games at a high standard.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 02:07:12
January 11 2012 02:07 GMT
#19
Someone that can live off of what they get paid and play full time.
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
January 11 2012 02:21 GMT
#20
On January 11 2012 11:04 Gofarman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 11:01 SkimGuy wrote:
Simple - Those who have a progaming license


Trololololol


kespa had a progaming license
hi
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft518
elazer 253
WinterStarcraft238
CosmosSc2 38
PiLiPiLi 25
Nathanias 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 592
NaDa 24
Dota 2
febbydoto58
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1273
AZ_Axe126
Other Games
tarik_tv4422
Grubby3359
shahzam577
JimRising 284
Maynarde179
XaKoH 139
ViBE39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick688
BasetradeTV69
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• RyuSc2 45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• XenOsky 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22487
Other Games
• imaqtpie1753
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
11h
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 8h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 11h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.