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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:04 arfyron wrote: How was boxer well prepared? He didn't know he was going to play stephano HappyChris is a Stephano fanboy. That's all you need to know. | ||
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sanza
1 Post
But one thing for Stephano : he's listening very good music. Rare enough to be told  | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:05 StyLeD wrote: HappyChris is a Stephano fanboy. That's all you need to know. No Im a stephano fan and a realist and I never claimed Stephano to be the best in the world. All im doing is providing facts about Stephano something his haters dont do much. Ofcourse its much easier to claim Stephano is overrated and will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so o.0 If thats considered a fanboy well geuss I am. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:05 StyLeD wrote: HappyChris is a Stephano fanboy. That's all you need to know. Unnecessary ad hominem, shame on you. If you call him biased at least point out the flaw in his reasoning. I don't know if Boxer was "well prepared", but he certainly had more time for preparation than his opponent as it was obvious he would face Stephano from the grid. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:42 HappyChris wrote: No Im a stephano fan and a realist and I never claimed Stephano to be the best in the world. All im doing is providing facts about Stephano something his haters dont do much. Ofcourse its much easier to claim Stephano is overrated and will get figured out becuase Idra sayd so o.0 If thats considered a fanboy well geuss I am. a realist would not claim boxer was well prepared and stephanno was tired, when boxer had no clue he was about to play stephano. You are not a realist, you are a fanboy. | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On December 12 2011 06:00 hunts wrote: a realist would not claim boxer was well prepared and stephanno was tired, when boxer had no clue he was about to play stephano. You are not a realist, you are a fanboy. sorry to break it to all of you but you are ALL arguing a retarded argument | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On December 12 2011 06:00 hunts wrote: a realist would not claim boxer was well prepared and stephanno was tired, when boxer had no clue he was about to play stephano. You are not a realist, you are a fanboy. You are a courageous man, if I had been called out on my idiocy so many times in a single thread I would have been so embarrased and stopped posting long ago. I geuss you truly know no shame, good for you fella. Also, the boxer series at MLG was incredibly insignificant, a 2 rax all in and an unscouted marine push. Not to take anything away from boxer, he does that stuff better than almost anyone, but it doesn't reflect on Stephano's skill that much. Not to mention the series at IPL was incredibly one sided in the other players favor. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 06:00 hunts wrote: a realist would not claim boxer was well prepared and stephanno was tired, when boxer had no clue he was about to play stephano. You are not a realist, you are a fanboy. Dear Hunts, I think you made more of enough fool out of youself allrdy. First you come into this thread and say all of stephano´s winnings is only from French lans. Then you claim Stephano´s high win ratio in Korea is becuase he bought a new account in korea and was playing against low league players. Now you claiming Boxer didnt knew he was gonna play stephano when the grid on day 2 showed Stephano to meet Kiwi and then the winner to meet Boxer next day. I dont know whats going on with you either you just trolling me or you just dont do very much research before posting | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
Leenock Jjakji MVP Stephano Nestea Sorry Protosses, but I really don't see one of you guys having a better skillset than those five guys. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:41 Wegandi wrote: I don't think anyone would dispute MVP being the best SC2 player. Stephano is really good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet proclaiming him the best. He is probably in the top five no doubt, but no one comes close to MVP right now. I would round out the top five as: Leenock Jjakji MVP Stephano Nestea Sorry Protosses, but I really don't see one of you guys having a better skillset than those five guys. You placing Stephano way to high. Stephano is proberly around top 20. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
1 - Nestea 2 - Losira 3 - Leenock 4 - YuGiOh 5 - Min 6 - Coca 7 - Zenio 8 - Sen 9 - DIMAGA 10 - Stephano Yeah Stephano is one of the very best foreigners but all this fanboyism is not justified yet. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:01 LighT. wrote: 5. He's inconsistent. To be a top player, you have to have a rate of consistency...NEstea is always up there, so is MVP, MMA etc. Stephano has a large flux of ups and downs as noted his loss to Boxer at MLG Orlando,and his abysmal performance at Dreamhack. Thats some really high standards for consistency if the big "downs" are losses to Boxer, Sheth and Naniwa (and Cloud, when he was already out). Out of the top foreigners only Naniwa may be really more consistent. Huk and Idra have quite a big record of blowups. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:41 Wegandi wrote: I don't think anyone would dispute MVP being the best SC2 player. Stephano is really good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet proclaiming him the best. He is probably in the top five no doubt, but no one comes close to MVP right now. I would round out the top five as: Leenock Jjakji MVP Stephano Nestea Sorry Protosses, but I really don't see one of you guys having a better skillset than those five guys. I would go for: 1) MVP 2) Leenock 3) Jjakji 4) Nestea 5) DRG Honourable mention: MMA | ||
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zyce
United States649 Posts
 Grrrr.... While it would take the equivalent of an OSL win for this to hold water, if Stephano's 3 hours of practice is true, then I'm really impressed. (Note: I said "drew a hasty comparison", and an incorrect one. Grrr will never be eclipsed in the mind of SC fans.)With a full schedule in a Korean house, comes a manager to keep track of your time, your tournaments, and your upcoming matches therein. This is in stark contrast to the Western method of pro house-dom, wherein the players still manage their time individually. While a team manager directly benefits the lesser-skilled players the most, it has it's benefits for every player with almost no drawbacks. To avoid being a flash in the pan, Stephano would need to give up the next few years of his life to Starcraft, and under a professional's managerial care. I doubt this is something that will happen, but I can certainly hope that he goes this route. Until Stephano makes solid appearances in the GSL, TLers will be hard pressed to convince each other that Stephano is "the best". To go back to my original comparison, Stephano reminds me of Pillars much more than Grrr.... | ||
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Loki57
United States292 Posts
On December 11 2011 02:19 Toppp wrote: He's the best foreigner Zerg, but he's still not the best in the world. He's atleast top 10 though. He's not even that though. Sen and IdrA have both shown better results against better players before, and ret/dimaga have been much scarier when they're on their game (both can tend to be inconsistent). Stephano dodged all the good players at IPL3 and the other two tourneys he won lacked any real top-tier players. I guess his upcoming Blizzard Cup group will be a good display of him against top players, but I really can't see him going any better than 1-3 against MVP, MC, HerO, and DRG. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Toez
France167 Posts
it's not an argument | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 12 2011 08:27 Loki57 wrote: He's not even that though. Sen and IdrA have both shown better results against better players before, and ret/dimaga have been much scarier when they're on their game (both can tend to be inconsistent). Stephano dodged all the good players at IPL3 and the other two tourneys he won lacked any real top-tier players. I guess his upcoming Blizzard Cup group will be a good display of him against top players, but I really can't see him going any better than 1-3 against MVP, MC, HerO, and DRG. What. He dodged all the good players at IPL 3? He beat the players that beat the players. At ESWC he dominated Marineking in the semifinal. at IPL 4 UK qualifier he took out grubby,Sase and tails that had just 2-0 Ryung. What results have Idra got thats better then Stephanos IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 uk qualifier wins. Only result Idra got is his IEM china win over Elfi o.0 You cant even compare it | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:41 Wegandi wrote: I don't think anyone would dispute MVP being the best SC2 player. Stephano is really good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet proclaiming him the best. He is probably in the top five no doubt, but no one comes close to MVP right now. I would round out the top five as: Leenock Jjakji MVP Stephano Nestea Sorry Protosses, but I really don't see one of you guys having a better skillset than those five guys. Stephano is not top 5...I'd rate him at around top15 | ||
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