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Well on one hand, I have to say that after everything I've seen/read recently, I'm even more glad that the Complexity's plan of building a superteam overnight failed hard.
Nani obviously isn't easy to work with, but he's a champion and he doesn't need to be easy. Complexity decided to pick him up even though they really had no personal relationship and connections with him beforehand, and they KNEW his personality before they picked him up. They didn't care much about "core Complexity values" then, they just wanted top players so they can compete with EG or whatever.
This is why I'm pretty convinced that Nani left because Nani chose to leave, not because of anything Complexity PR says. It's not surprising they would spin it like that given that they had to deal with the 2 top tier players rejecting them in a short period of time.
Although Quantic seems like another team of the same breed from what I can see.
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On December 10 2011 01:17 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 01:09 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 23:35 Ninjahoe wrote:On December 09 2011 23:00 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:
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You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. Why does that have to do with ESFI? It's not their quote to begin with, it's an opinion from an anonymous source. I can't belive people doesn't get it.... They are talking shit about him, ANONYMOUS. This trashtalker doesn't even dare to do it to his face, to get a reply AKA not giving NaNi any chance to even defend himself. I don't know why any of that is your problem, that's between Naniwa, ESFI and the anonymous source. Because it shows that ESFI isn't a real news site, they're just a medium for 'sources' to air their dirty laundry without any journalistic integrity. I mean really I don't like Naniwa as a person but I think what ESFI has done is far worse. I don't even mind that they're apparently biased towards complexity - but the fact that they publish what should be kept in private (an 'anonymous source' thinking Naniwa is mental) as an actual news article is disgusting.
Using anonymous sources in the news is pretty common
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_sourcing
Edit: We're talking like NYTimes, CNN type of common. I think some of you guys are just interested in killing the messenger.
Edit 2: The fact that ESFI is pissing people off with its coverage is actually a good sign. They have to be comfortable releasing stories that they know people won't like.
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I don't understand how Complexity has such a weak team overall. I guess you could say they are strong if you include the partnership, since they gain players like DRG. However, prior to SC2, you could think of coL being an EG rival in most if not all competitive games. I'll never forget coL vs EG CS, yet coL's non korean partnership roster is basically what? catz? He's a popular player and gets attention I suppose, almost like a destiny but he's never shown any tournament success to note. Drewbie? He's performed 'OK' at some MLG's but nothing that stands out. Cruncher? I know he's inactive but his claim to fame is a ' ' and win against IdrA. I suppose trimaster is an exciting up and comer but I'm really kind of diasapointed with complexity's overall lineup. As a fan of esports since the days of CPL and shitty online leagues that you play for nothing but pride (tfl/sta/igl) who recognizes these big teams and has followed them for a decade, they are kind of a let down.
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On December 10 2011 02:02 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 01:17 Serelitz wrote:On December 10 2011 01:09 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 23:35 Ninjahoe wrote:On December 09 2011 23:00 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:
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I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information.
They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading.
real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. Why does that have to do with ESFI? It's not their quote to begin with, it's an opinion from an anonymous source. I can't belive people doesn't get it.... They are talking shit about him, ANONYMOUS. This trashtalker doesn't even dare to do it to his face, to get a reply AKA not giving NaNi any chance to even defend himself. I don't know why any of that is your problem, that's between Naniwa, ESFI and the anonymous source. Because it shows that ESFI isn't a real news site, they're just a medium for 'sources' to air their dirty laundry without any journalistic integrity. I mean really I don't like Naniwa as a person but I think what ESFI has done is far worse. I don't even mind that they're apparently biased towards complexity - but the fact that they publish what should be kept in private (an 'anonymous source' thinking Naniwa is mental) as an actual news article is disgusting. Using anonymous sources in the news is pretty common http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_sourcingEdit: We're talking like NYTimes, CNN type of common. I think some of you guys are just interested in killing the messenger.
Did you even read the wiki you linked? Anonymous sourcing has rarely ended well for journalism and it's practice is in steep decline. Also, when it's reputably used it needs to be corroborated with a second source. ESFI did not corroborate with a second source here.
They just let someone sling some mud at a player.
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Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 10 2011 02:02 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 01:17 Serelitz wrote:On December 10 2011 01:09 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 23:35 Ninjahoe wrote:On December 09 2011 23:00 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:
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I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information.
They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading.
real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. Why does that have to do with ESFI? It's not their quote to begin with, it's an opinion from an anonymous source. I can't belive people doesn't get it.... They are talking shit about him, ANONYMOUS. This trashtalker doesn't even dare to do it to his face, to get a reply AKA not giving NaNi any chance to even defend himself. I don't know why any of that is your problem, that's between Naniwa, ESFI and the anonymous source. Because it shows that ESFI isn't a real news site, they're just a medium for 'sources' to air their dirty laundry without any journalistic integrity. I mean really I don't like Naniwa as a person but I think what ESFI has done is far worse. I don't even mind that they're apparently biased towards complexity - but the fact that they publish what should be kept in private (an 'anonymous source' thinking Naniwa is mental) as an actual news article is disgusting. Using anonymous sources in the news is pretty common http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_sourcingEdit: We're talking like NYTimes, CNN type of common. I think some of you guys are just interested in killing the messenger. Edit 2: The fact that ESFI is pissing people off with its coverage is actually a good sign. They have to be comfortable releasing stories that they know people won't like.
Using anonymous source for informations is fine if you can believe the guy who wrote it, using it to bash somebody isn't
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quatic geting such a sick roster now :D
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On December 10 2011 01:58 Talin wrote:
Well on one hand, I have to say that after everything I've seen/read recently, I'm even more glad that the Complexity's plan of building a superteam overnight failed hard.
Nani obviously isn't easy to work with, but he's a champion and he doesn't need to be easy. Complexity decided to pick him up even though they really had no personal relationship and connections with him beforehand, and they KNEW his personality before they picked him up. They didn't care much about "core Complexity values" then, they just wanted top players so they can compete with EG or whatever.
This is why I'm pretty convinced that Nani left because Nani chose to leave, not because of anything Complexity PR says. It's not surprising they would spin it like that given that they had to deal with the 2 top tier players rejecting them in a short period of time.
Although Quantic seems like another team of the same breed from what I can see.
Since Naniwa was in Korea for most of the time they can't have much contact except maybe skype and so forth. So the team relation wasn't really there to start with so I honestly doubt it had to do something with Naniwa's behaviour. And even then they knew pretty much exactly what they were getting into if they had done any homework on Naniwa.
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Everything I'm seeing on reddit and esfi world is making me pretty depressed. Everything i've seen from esfi world seems like pure drama mongering. The guy that was interviewed on fuck slasher was saying random, unfounded, and incredibly unspecific shit that sounded like it was made up on the spot. It was ridiculous and apparently everyone is taking it seriously.
I haven't seen a single quote or piece of information that is specific and has an actual source except for the quotes from the teams and naniwa that don't say anything negative. There hasn't been an ounce of actual content added to this discussion from the "reporters". It's just random opinions of uninvolved people and subjective "quotes" that aren't actually sourced to anyone involved.
This is worse than TMZ.
Edit: The guy below me gets it.
On December 10 2011 02:13 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:10 FXOpen wrote:Chobopeon has the matches, I have the gasoline. ESFI is a reputable e-sports media organisation. Behind the scenes everything true/false is known about this situation other than of course the cost of the transfer. For the internet to explode like this kinda forces the question on whats up with sc2????? Anonymous media is standard. I have been quoted anonymously multiple times at the risk of financial loss or attacks from persons or organisations. Its standard practice. Its sad to see that someones identity cannot be protected by anonymity on the internet. Considering the trolls/complainers/attackers on this said forum and other mediums on the internet demand anonymity and fight to maintain it. A guy is anonymous and ESFI respect that... Just like if you were to say I am a complete fuckwit, sure it hurts my feelings but you have the right to be anonymous. Before you judge, perhaps change your TL name to your real name. Then start the fight It's one thing to use an anonymous source for legitimate information. It's another thing to use an anonymous source to say something completely subjective and meaningless like "this guy is an ass". That's not information. That's just slander.
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On December 10 2011 02:10 FXOpen wrote:Chobopeon has the matches, I have the gasoline. ESFI is a reputable e-sports media organisation. Behind the scenes everything true/false is known about this situation other than of course the cost of the transfer. For the internet to explode like this kinda forces the question on whats up with sc2????? Anonymous media is standard. I have been quoted anonymously multiple times at the risk of financial loss or attacks from persons or organisations. Its standard practice. Its sad to see that someones identity cannot be protected by anonymity on the internet. Considering the trolls/complainers/attackers on this said forum and other mediums on the internet demand anonymity and fight to maintain it. A guy is anonymous and ESFI respect that... Just like if you were to say I am a complete fuckwit, sure it hurts my feelings but you have the right to be anonymous. Before you judge, perhaps change your TL name to your real name. Then start the fight
It's one thing to use an anonymous source for legitimate information.
It's another thing to use an anonymous source to say something completely subjective and meaningless like "this guy is an ass". That's not information. That's just slander.
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The last line is the only part of it that is slander.. Saying someone needs mental help.
The rest to be honest a lot of people are thinking it, but no one is saying it.
Naniwa is a great person as a friend. But he is very difficult to deal with.
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On December 10 2011 02:10 FXOpen wrote:Chobopeon has the matches, I have the gasoline. ESFI is a reputable e-sports media organisation. Behind the scenes everything true/false is known about this situation other than of course the cost of the transfer. For the internet to explode like this kinda forces the question on whats up with sc2????? Anonymous media is standard. I have been quoted anonymously multiple times at the risk of financial loss or attacks from persons or organisations. Its standard practice. Its sad to see that someones identity cannot be protected by anonymity on the internet. Considering the trolls/complainers/attackers on this said forum and other mediums on the internet demand anonymity and fight to maintain it. A guy is anonymous and ESFI respect that... Just like if you were to say I am a complete fuckwit, sure it hurts my feelings but you have the right to be anonymous. Before you judge, perhaps change your TL name to your real name. Then start the fight
You conveniently ignored the main point of those critizing the anonymous quote, which is that the "source" was not a source of information but rather just someone giving their personal opinion. It's not at all standard practice in journalism to let people vent their opinions anonymously when no valuable information is divulged.
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Am I really the only one that thought it was Artosis that said it (damn, I read it with his voice LOL)? When he talked about players being dicks to casters, I thought he was talking about NaNiwa.
He is a third part not affiliated with any of those companies - and he's pretty vocal about players being bad mannered. He's also very protective about his image - thus justifying the anonymity.
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I sometimes feel Naniwa is a bit understood. I'm a massive fan.
“ I was not a good fit in Complexity because I was all alone in Korea, and they had no plans to send any more of their players here for a long time. I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily. Living with other people who speak English and being around StarTale (who embraced me with open arms when I first came to Korea) is an exciting prospect for me. If my time within Quantic goes as well as I think it will, then you can bet I won’t be moving teams again. Thanks to all my fans! Continue to support me in the future please!”
I can relate to him.
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I have just openly stated what the source has said, and confirmed it. Does that mean that there is now valuable information divulged?
I wouldnt doubt that the source is someone who is reliable and respectable...... I know ESFI well enough that they wouldnt publish such a comment without the source meaning something.
Its 1:20 am.. Nothing was done with convenience in my post. The fact remains that even if the source is anonymous, and you choose to believe what they say or not (minus the mental help crap), the subject at large has a proven history of being difficult to deal with.
I respect Naniwa as a person, but if this witch hunting jargon continues to go on e-sports is going to look like trash.
Naniwa is a professional player, his contract was bought by an organisation. The reason behind his sale is because complexity had an issue, and it was dealt with.
Naniwa's career is still in tact, he has the ability to prove the negative comments wrong in the future. WE should be focusing on that. Rather than turning this into a media 90210.
This goes hand in hand with a question news strait times asked me this morning. "Why should the mainstream media get involved in e-sports"... If they publish 1 thing and you dont agree with it, do you think they will stick around to accept this type of witch hunting crap. The subject at hand has been completely ignored and this topic is no longer about Naniwa, its about ESFI. Albeit great for ESFI traffic, its not an over all good result for the industry that many, including myself, are trying to grow.
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I mean almost anyone who watches Starcraft 2 knows enough about Nani's personality to know that he can be difficult. So that fact alone is not news to anyone.
However, having this anonymous source phrasing his opinion of Naniwa like that (including the professional help thing) and then putting that in an article is horrible journalism, and the intent to cause additional damage to Nani's image is blatantly obvious.
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On December 10 2011 02:10 FXOpen wrote:Chobopeon has the matches, I have the gasoline. ESFI is a reputable e-sports media organisation. Behind the scenes everything true/false is known about this situation other than of course the cost of the transfer. For the internet to explode like this kinda forces the question on whats up with sc2????? Anonymous media is standard. I have been quoted anonymously multiple times at the risk of financial loss or attacks from persons or organisations. Its standard practice. Its sad to see that someones identity cannot be protected by anonymity on the internet. Considering the trolls/complainers/attackers on this said forum and other mediums on the internet demand anonymity and fight to maintain it. A guy is anonymous and ESFI respect that... Just like if you were to say I am a complete fuckwit, sure it hurts my feelings but you have the right to be anonymous. Before you judge, perhaps change your TL name to your real name. Then start the fight
It's more about proportionality and significance, and has been mentioned by many more level headed contributors within this thread -let aside the usual pitchfork folks. Does the matter really warrant a public platform for a personal attack?
Personal insults, unneeded stabs is what gawker and fox media successfully do- as tabloids. I have experienced more conservative articles from ESFI and would be glad if they stick to their guns
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On December 10 2011 02:16 FXOpen wrote:
The last line is the only part of it that is slander.. Saying someone needs mental help.
The rest to be honest a lot of people are thinking it, but no one is saying it.
Naniwa is a great person as a friend. But he is very difficult to deal with.
See, from my point of view- and the same of other reasonable critics- that is exactly the part that should have been left out. No big deal. If all they wrote was "Naniwa is tough to deal with", that takes no genius to realize.
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On December 10 2011 01:09 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 23:35 Ninjahoe wrote:On December 09 2011 23:00 GrungyMunchy wrote:On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:
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I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site.
What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source.
That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. Why does that have to do with ESFI? It's not their quote to begin with, it's an opinion from an anonymous source. I can't belive people doesn't get it.... They are talking shit about him, ANONYMOUS. This trashtalker doesn't even dare to do it to his face, to get a reply AKA not giving NaNi any chance to even defend himself. I don't know why any of that is your problem, that's between Naniwa, ESFI and the anonymous source.
Wrong!
Obviously it's between NaNiwa and "Anonymous source".
However i reserve the right for me to choose wich sites i wish to support, and I base my decision on what content they make. And seeing as they are just as good as any gossip journal, I don't really find anything they produce interesting, since it's not genuine anyway.
EDIT: FXOpen going into this argument totally biased really helpes.
Lost all high thoughts of FXO... What the hell do you know about Naniwa? See him much? Talk to him alot?
Holy shit, have some dignity, this is pathetic... Hitting on someone who's obviously already lying down...
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On December 10 2011 02:18 k10forgotten wrote:
Am I really the only one that thought it was Artosis that said it (damn, I read it with his voice LOL)? When he talked about players being dicks to casters, I thought he was talking about NaNiwa.
He is a third part not affiliated with any of those companies - and he's pretty vocal about players being bad mannered. He's also very protective about his image - thus justifying the anonymity.
At first I thought he was talking about nani too, but I didn't remember any games of nani starting really fast and apparently artosis was talking about huk for the most part
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On December 10 2011 02:16 FXOpen wrote:
The last line is the only part of it that is slander.. Saying someone needs mental help.
The rest to be honest a lot of people are thinking it, but no one is saying it.
Naniwa is a great person as a friend. But he is very difficult to deal with.
Well if it's slander then it really shouldn't be in the article in the first place... if it's legit then it should be checked into carefully and not conjoined with statements about how he is a pain to deal with. The anonymity is not really the issue as much as the
validity of the statement itself.
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