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Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 18:20:09
November 15 2011 18:19 GMT
#41
Well atleast now I have a number to work for.

To the cheesegrinder!
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
November 15 2011 18:23 GMT
#42
Nice, now i know i just need to aim for 1340pts P
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
November 15 2011 18:26 GMT
#43
Releasing this is a good idea by them.

For people who don't understand, they did a calculation on how many points you would need to have at the end of a season (a fixed time for these calculations) for your MMR to be within the promotion range to get to the next league. This gives people a point total to shoot for to get a promotion, and overall re-incentivizes people to play ladder.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 18:27:56
November 15 2011 18:26 GMT
#44
On November 16 2011 02:59 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 02:57 Elem wrote:
On November 16 2011 02:56 KiF1rE wrote:
On November 16 2011 02:51 Kodak wrote:
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote:
1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still...


You do realize it's not talking about S3, right?


s3 was the same 2 month length, so the values should still hold true... and if they truly mean near grandmaster because it works differently this stupid announcement from blizzard has actually 0 value to a competitive player asking the question, of how do i actually earn a league promotion.... besides crush GM's and still be stuck in masters? in season 3 i was getting paired with players like RSVP when they were in the top 16 range of GM. and im still masters why?
Likely cause the league is full?



i didnt play the day it was bugged, then i played when the ineligbles were kicked and still didnt get promoted. and yes now it is full, despite the lower levels of GM being terrible.


Stop whining.

I'm like 100 points above you in the same ladder and yet barely in the Top 200 of Masters, it's not like you are anywhere close to sniffing GM, and it has nothing to do with the GM bug.

EDIT: 160 points.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
November 15 2011 18:29 GMT
#45
On November 16 2011 02:21 XRaDiiX wrote:
Interesting around 1400 Points to GrandMasters in NA? Woah... got 850 points to go until GM

there are a lot of ppl that i know who have around 800pts and are playing top GM so im not sure about that completely
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 15 2011 18:30 GMT
#46
On November 16 2011 03:29 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 02:21 XRaDiiX wrote:
Interesting around 1400 Points to GrandMasters in NA? Woah... got 850 points to go until GM

there are a lot of ppl that i know who have around 800pts and are playing top GM so im not sure about that completely


1400 points at end of season. That means you need about 980 points right now to get to 1400 points, unless you go on a win streak.

I'm at 840-ish right now, and definitely play some decent grandmasters players (was playing ppl at the top last year), but that doesn't mean I'm at a GM level.
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
November 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#47
OMG that means I need like 550 more points in diamond to get to masters
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 15 2011 18:36 GMT
#48
On November 16 2011 03:33 ig0tfish wrote:
OMG that means I need like 550 more points in diamond to get to masters
Take 1 months point inflation into the calculation and it doesnt seem that horrible.
#freeshauni
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
November 15 2011 18:39 GMT
#49
cool good to know props to you for sharing
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
November 15 2011 18:44 GMT
#50
I won less than 12 out of my last 20 games
OGS:levelchange
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
November 15 2011 18:44 GMT
#51
It's be really awesome if someone could compute the bonus pool # included in that so we could figure out where we are now.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
November 15 2011 18:46 GMT
#52
On November 16 2011 03:44 NATO wrote:
It's be really awesome if someone could compute the bonus pool # included in that so we could figure out where we are now.


This. Because now it's hard to imagine how much points someone gonna have by the end of the season.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
frankster
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom8 Posts
November 15 2011 18:53 GMT
#53
How does this tie in with the past work on MMR analysis? excalibr's if I remember correctly.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
November 15 2011 18:55 GMT
#54
Not sure why the cutoff for GM is so low. Should be more like 1700-1800 for AM
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
November 15 2011 18:56 GMT
#55
I think they greatly overestimate the number of points you need to get promoted. I got promoted in 2v2s this season with far fewer points than they listed.
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Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
November 15 2011 18:59 GMT
#56
Hmm this is really interesting because I've been trying to get to masters for a few months and keep scraping the cusp of the level of players I need to beat to be promoted. The amount of points is kind of insane though haha, Im at 300 currently. Only 600 more to go haha.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 15 2011 19:02 GMT
#57
So are they changing the ladder system in any, or is this just a rough ladder-points estimate to encourage people to play more?
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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
November 15 2011 19:03 GMT
#58
500 points to go til GM... tho its until 13 Dec so would need to know bonus pool left til then, anyone knows it >?
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
November 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#59
On November 16 2011 02:28 Elendoil wrote:
You guys are doing it wrong: The points Blizz is talking about is not the points that you are having (at least I think). Else their statement that you have to win over 50% of the time for a long period of time wouldn't make sense. If I play 1 game every day my bonuspool is more than enough to gain me a steady income of points if I keep a 50% winrate. So I guess they are talking about other points. Also it would be stupid to need more points to get from Bronze to Silver then from Silver to Gold.



The point values in their table assume that you're earning 100% of your bonus pool, which is why they caveat the whole thing saying "all of this assumes the season ends the week of December 19th."

The bonus pool will only be a portion of those points. The rest of the points roughly track your MMR, and to increase MMR you generally have to win more than you lose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#60
On November 16 2011 03:56 KevinIX wrote:
I think they greatly overestimate the number of points you need to get promoted. I got promoted in 2v2s this season with far fewer points than they listed.


This is how much you'd need (approx) at end of season to get promoted next season. If you're high enough you can get promoted mid-season, presumably with a much smaller # of points (since it's based on your Moving Average MMR, not your points - points is just a representation of your MMR and bonus pool).
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