EPTHow to Earn a League Promotion - Page 2
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
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Dujek
United Kingdom276 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote: 1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still... It says near grandmaster, GM obviously works a bit differently than the other leagues. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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Kodak
United States157 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote: 1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still... You do realize it's not talking about S3, right? | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
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JackRipper
79 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote: 1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still... I believe this chart is only for seasons that are 2 months long (season 4 onwards), so applying the 1600 points you had on season 3 doesn't work here. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:51 Kodak wrote: You do realize it's not talking about S3, right? s3 was the same 2 month length, so the values should still hold true... and if they truly mean near grandmaster because it works differently this stupid announcement from blizzard has actually 0 value to a competitive player asking the question, of how do i actually earn a league promotion.... besides crush GM's and still be stuck in masters? in season 3 i was getting paired with players like RSVP when they were in the top 16 range of GM. and im still masters why? | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:56 KiF1rE wrote: Likely cause the league is full?s3 was the same 2 month length, so the values should still hold true... and if they truly mean near grandmaster because it works differently this stupid announcement from blizzard has actually 0 value to a competitive player asking the question, of how do i actually earn a league promotion.... besides crush GM's and still be stuck in masters? in season 3 i was getting paired with players like RSVP when they were in the top 16 range of GM. and im still masters why? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote: 1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still... I think this is for the upcoming rollover, not this most recent one. Also, any hard number like that is subject to change-- the competition for grandmaster is surely quite brutal, and will only get moreso with shorter seasons, I think. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
(I'm interested in Plat) | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
i didnt play the day it was bugged, then i played when the ineligbles were kicked and still didnt get promoted. and yes now it is full, despite the lower levels of GM being terrible. | ||
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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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eleaf
526 Posts
1. for a long time we know that Blizzard always use MMR system to promote/demote between leagues. Yet this system has some kind of known issues that it's quite hard for some ppl to promote if you have just played too many games. Your MMR is so stable that you may be required to win more games to promote than a fresh account. 2. based on the previous MMR promotion/demotion system, if you are a top 3 diamond player who constantly facing top 8 diamond or low master opponent, your MMR is the same as low master player who constantly facing low master opponent or top 8 diamond. Though top 3 diamond/ low master have the same MMR, they are in different league, and actually it's hard for the MMR system to promote top 3 diamond to master league and demote low master to diamond league. This is just system design flaw to use pure MMR to promote/demote. 3. one obvious point is that Blizzard want us to play more ladder games. This is why we have a shorter season. This is why we have grandmaster league. Yet under the pure MMR promotion/demotion system, it makes ppl in the high end tier of each league reluctant to play. Coz you need to win way more games which requires a significant improve of your skills. It's just too hard to do that in a short time so players are just tired and stop playing due to not gaining any benefit from playing more. 4. Blizzard new system is encouraging ppl to play more, which is basically if you play more, and have a slightly winning advantage in your recent record (not a significant advantage as required by previous MMR system) you will get promote in the next season. By this means, if you are in top 3 diamond, and your win/loss ratio is OK, you will be guaranteed to be in master league next season. 5. well, we all have to remember: league is just percentage. Some ppl got promotion indicates some ppl will be demoted  So who are those poor guys under then new system? As in the previous example, it's highly possible that the former low master player who constantly facing low master opponent or top 8 diamond will be demoted. But that's kind of fair for the general principle: if you dont work hard, you fail! So is starcraft II laddering. If you dont ladder hard, BANG, you have been replaced into XXX league and lose your former league pride | ||
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Rayeth
United States883 Posts
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StavrosHL
Greece128 Posts
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:59 KiF1rE wrote: i didnt play the day it was bugged, then i played when the ineligbles were kicked and still didnt get promoted. and yes now it is full, despite the lower levels of GM being terrible. if MMR is a value that is always rising as the top players get better and continue to play, then the point values for each season should be different. Thats why is season's 2-3 it took players like 2-3 weeks to hit 1k points when in season 4 they hit 1k in the first week. stop QQing about not getting GM. There's a number in front of you, go get it | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
The point "requirements" are more than your bonus pool will accrue all season. This means that you absolutely must have a winrate > 50% in order to be promoted. What that means is your MMR is climbing. They still use MMR as an indicator of promotions (which is why they say these are approximates and not exact numbers). They are just estimating what number of points will get your MMR high enough. On the other hand, if you win 30 games in a row you'll probably be promoted regardless of your point total (because your MMR will have climbed enough). Basically they are just using ladder points to approximate when your MMR will have reached high enough. | ||
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Asmodeusz
193 Posts
The only way to gain these points is to win more than you lose for a sustained period. No shit sherlock... Why do people care so much about the system. All the attention you commit to it, you should redirect to improving your gameplay. System just puts you to the league with people that have similar results to you. It's about performance. Play well long enaugh and you'll get promoted. You can't do anything but that. There is no magic ways to advance to higher leagues, just play better and stop caring about it. It's exactly the same with fat people that are obsessed with diets, pills and other magic crap that they think will make them fit in blink of an eye, when in reality they just need to eat healthy, eat less and exercise more. So if I would just grind out games vs high diamond/mid diamond while losing all my games to masters player would I as a diamond player be able to reach 900 points and thus hopefully be masters next season? No, you have to win 50%+ games vs masters players to advance to masters league. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:21 XRaDiiX wrote: Interesting around 1400 Points to GrandMasters in NA? Woah... got 850 points to go until GM  Hey, off-topic but aren't you "the priest-radi" (sorry about the capital letters, my memory doesn't go THAT far) I used to see in quite a lot of 4v4 or something wc3 replays, AGGGGEEEEESSSSS ago (2005/6 ?) Or has it nothing to do ? :D Kinda cool to see how it works, won't be of much use to me since I don't actually play sc2 though ;p | ||
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