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slappy
United States1271 Posts
I'm really just on edge waiting for some news updates! TBH I'm not a fan of watching sc2, but at least it feels like the 2 children can sit on the same dish towel together and not pick on each other (this was how my mother punished my brother and I if we didn't get along lol) Also, I can't wait to see how fast the meta-game gets pushed with the HUGE influx of new players to sc2 | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
On October 30 2011 04:15 mishimaBeef wrote: i think the korean ladder just got harder I know I certainly did! | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
LOL That got so much funnier when I read it properly ! | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On October 30 2011 05:12 Tyree wrote: Actually a great way to get BW fans to at least give SC2 a chance is for SC2 fans to simply grind on them with "MVP is better than Flash", "Nestea would whoop Jaedong" etc, it will probably make them more interested in having that discussion rather than the deadend, boring and tired SC2 vs BW discussion. Once they see their heroes play the games some of them outright hate, they might even lower their shields and accept the game. Again its something for GOM and Kespa to ponder, to market this in a way to get most people interested We gave SC2 a chance long before you were even here. No one was more hyped for SC2 than the BW guys. | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
on the other hand, more talent can only be good for SC2. | ||
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rift
1819 Posts
On October 30 2011 05:28 raf3776 wrote: I dont see the tip top players switching over but the players that arent at the top of BW I could see switching. With the micro of these new players I could imagine blink and pheonix micro being really good in their hands. No offense meant, but what is phoenix micro? They attack on their own... | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On October 30 2011 05:34 rift wrote: No offense meant, but what is phoenix micro? They attack on their own... rofl. Strange that he mentioned phoenix because it's like last unit you would need to micro :D | ||
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Protossrush
United States56 Posts
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
On October 30 2011 05:34 rift wrote: No offense meant, but what is phoenix micro? They attack on their own... Micro against mutas. Harassing workers. harassing units Switch picking up units when one pheonix is getting attacked. constantly moving while attacking a picked up unit. just stuff like that micro.. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
i'm a pretty terrible player though so maybe i'm overestimating the limits of the game. | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
Also i feel sc2 zerg played right is nigh unstoppable against terran. Give it a few more months and the ZvT metagame will be completely figured out. Lategame ghosts will be countered by mass overseers (to stop them from getting sniped) + mass lings and a dozen roaches + a few banelings /infestors/broodlords/ultras. By the time terran even gets to the point to use ghosts, against a good zerg the zerg should be massively ahead in econ to field the perfect counter. nestea just didnt know how to react properly in that shakuras game, but once zergs have more lategame experience against top terrans soon it will be figured out how to absolutely crush ghosts and terran will be left with nothing else and zerg will reign supreme. Of course this is all just my theory, so whatever, but i believe zerg truly is the strongest race and terran is only reigning right now because the metagame hasnt been figured out regardless, even if my theory is wrong and zerg is not overpowered compared to terran and is just equal compared to terran, still my point was simply that jaedong is the bw pro with the most promise because IMO zerg is not a weak race in sc2. so whether or not zerg is overpowered or equal to terran, whatever, i think its one of those possibilities that is the truth and regardless jaedong will reign supreme in either possibility Flash on the other hand has way too much injury and will soon retire. His injuries are growing way worse every year and and its such a shame that a great RTS mind has to go out to injury. Very sad for flash indeed. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
What are you talking about? Flash just had a completely successful surgery against his injury and the doctors say he should be able to make a full recovery soon. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On October 29 2011 23:03 Hittomogasin wrote: First: Kiting and stutterstep micro are 2 differend things all together as stutterstep enables you to move and maintain extreme DPS even with extreme attack speeds such as stimmed marines. Kiting means you are avoiding taking damage whilst guiding your opponent around: for example running low HP stalker away in 4 gate vs 4 gate fight while your opponent is trying to kill that low HP stalker with most of hes stuff, ignoring rest of the units. Stutterstepping means that you are moving and keeping up maximum DPS of the unit. You can use stutterstep micro for chasing as is seen pretty much every prolevel game. You can use it for kiting too but it is not exclusively kiting. Second: Whats this babble about colossus all the time? Yes its very clumsy unit with extremely long casting animation. It can be microed around high ground and over units and in colossus vs colossus battle its important that the lasers wont hit multiple colossus at same time, whitch is not impressive, but thats just colossus. There are what... 40 units in game? You realize that people want blizzard to buff unused units not because they are utter and complete garbage, but that tens of thousands of people would start testing the unit. Latest test subject is warp prism, before that was hellion, infestor, ghost, etc... Third: Blizzard cant compete with all the players of SC2 when it comes into testing. They will realize that there is a flower in a map that gives away zerg spawning location, they will figure out all the absurdly annoying pylon placements. They will figure out that hellions can actually destroy mineral lines while blizzard were pondering how to change bunker in next patch. Vikingflower was a trick that got removed when blizzard realized just how powerful their patrol mechanics could be. SC2 hasnt developed into its full potential yet and for you to claim absolute knowledge of its capabilities is both arrogant and foolish since even pros dont know it inside out. I don't consider them different mechanics to be honest; just cause it's got it's own name and the animation is cancelled doesn't make it very special. You do the exact same thing with dragoons in BW by hold position, move, hold position. Goliaths can also do a similar movement/attack. The Collosus is just one example of many... going up onto high ground is not micro ffs it's just simply moving the unit. Roach, Marauder, whatever; they seem to have just added for the purpose of being able to balance the game easier (much simpler to balance a few main compositions between each army then add support units around them). We're talking about eSports here mainly, and you're saying Blizzard is simply changing units for testing purposes. How is this appropriate for a game that's played competitively for hundreds of thousands of dollars? Personally i'm not seeing the positive side of your third point. If you want to debate the capabilities, then please suggest some, simply saying something might be found in the future is not good reasoning. In the early days of Starcraft, it's not like we didn't know that some units could theoretically be powerful with better mechanics, just nobody was good enough for years to come. If you can't look at the current unit set and see clear future potential then it's just wishful thinking that it will happen. I think play will be refined, people will be better of course and control better. But i can't see the same thing in the current units, and the HotS stuff seems even less likely. | ||
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EunhaK
France22 Posts
On October 30 2011 05:38 Protossrush wrote: GOODBYE WHITE PEOPLE! lol so mean | ||
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
time for korean dominance. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281 User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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