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i think the korean ladder just got harder
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On October 30 2011 02:41 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 01:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 30 2011 01:56 TheAntZ wrote:And think of it this, most people in D/D-/E categories can hit diamond (friend is keyboard rank and high Diamond). I keep hearing this kinda shit and it pisses me off. I managed to hit C- on iccup with toss, D+ with zerg, but i cant break into diamond with any race in sc2. Its ridiculous so you're saying that the 2 games that we played since waaaay back last year,you haven't improved at all? lol. Well i got into diamond for a little while and then dropped back to plat, got frustrated, switched to random. plat 4ever Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 02:00 Vehemus wrote:On October 30 2011 01:56 TheAntZ wrote:On October 30 2011 01:53 Vehemus wrote:On October 30 2011 01:50 TheAntZ wrote:On October 30 2011 01:41 Megaliskuu wrote:On October 30 2011 01:37 Oktyabr wrote:Wow, just wow. Something to take note of here is just how *long* they were stuck in platinum. You mean because ladders were locked :p No no you dont understand, BW players are obviously overhyped and thus took a long time getting out of plat. duh, its not like they're comparable to sc2 players after all! No, you don't understand. They were in platinum until the teams upgraded their equipment. I'm sorry, i thought i was being pretty clearly sarcastic/mocking with that post, but apparently its hard to convey that without a voice  And think of it this, most people in D/D-/E categories can hit diamond (friend is keyboard rank and high Diamond). I keep hearing this kinda shit and it pisses me off. I managed to hit C- on iccup with toss, D+ with zerg, but i cant break into diamond with any race in sc2. Its ridiculous I was joking as well, attributing BW pro players' ascent into the Master league to their new computers and monitors instead of their skill. I'm so dumb for real  Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 02:21 zerious wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Nestea would be probably around top 15 you obviously have no idea what you're talking about Why cant you just explain why and where hes wrong instead of insulting him? its funny cuz i'm shit at BW and masters in sc2. you never were C- if you're stuck in plat because in plat you can just macro and not micro at all and get to diamond.
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Why dont they just come out and say what teams are saying what -_-
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On October 30 2011 04:18 gladsheim wrote: Why dont they just come out and say what teams are saying what -_-
to build excitement!
i'm excited already!
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On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15.
Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense. 
Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so.
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Have any of the SC2 teams weighed in on this?
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LOL this thread. I'm having so much fun reading through the puzzle deciphering. Oh Korean news sites, how you troll us.
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On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so.
Funny moments in that list for me:
Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5.
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On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss
didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran?
zerg and terran still play at least somewhat similarly to their predecessors, but protoss doesn't
i think irrespective of any balance issues, you'll see a mass exodus of protoss players during the switch, just because it's too difficult to adapt
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On October 30 2011 04:46 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran?
He never said that -___- He said in his last interview that Terran is imba qq protoss sux. But that if he were to switch, he would still probably play Protoss.
Aiur4lyfe.
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On October 30 2011 04:49 seraphe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:46 Zanno wrote:On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran? He never said that -___- He said in his last interview that Terran is imba qq protoss sux. But that if he were to switch, he would still probably play Protoss. Aiur4lyfe. ah
i stand corrected, thank you
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On October 30 2011 04:49 seraphe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:46 Zanno wrote:On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran? He never said that -___- He said in his last interview that Terran is imba qq protoss sux. But that if he were to switch, he would still probably play Protoss. Aiur4lyfe.
The funny thing is Bisu's strength fits so perfectly with the terran race in SC2 but I just cant imagine him building marines instead of zealots.
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On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15.
If HuK would be anywhere near the top 10 if these players started playing SC2 fulltime I would seriously quit this game.
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On October 30 2011 04:55 Louuster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:49 seraphe wrote:On October 30 2011 04:46 Zanno wrote:On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran? He never said that -___- He said in his last interview that Terran is imba qq protoss sux. But that if he were to switch, he would still probably play Protoss. Aiur4lyfe. The funny thing is Bisu's strength fits so perfectly with the terran race in SC2 but I just cant imagine him building marines instead of zealots.
Bisu with Phoenix and Warp Prisms would be mind blowing actually. Fastest flying unit in the game with tons of utility is exactly what he needs. xD
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On October 30 2011 05:02 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 04:55 Louuster wrote:On October 30 2011 04:49 seraphe wrote:On October 30 2011 04:46 Zanno wrote:On October 30 2011 04:42 Nash wrote:On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so. Funny moments in that list for me: Jangbi at 3rd. MMA before MVP. Huk edging out players like Stork. Stephano top 5. the funniest moment is that bisu is still playing protoss didn't he say at blizzcon if he made the switch to sc2, he would play terran? He never said that -___- He said in his last interview that Terran is imba qq protoss sux. But that if he were to switch, he would still probably play Protoss. Aiur4lyfe. The funny thing is Bisu's strength fits so perfectly with the terran race in SC2 but I just cant imagine him building marines instead of zealots. Bisu with Phoenix and Warp Prisms would be mind blowing actually. Fastest flying unit in the game with tons of utility is exactly what he needs. xD
Then he might also like the Oracle from HotS. I don't know why, but if the BW pros switch over, the thing I would be most curious about would be Bisu's protoss play.
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On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote: I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense
top SC2 players could go like this.
1. Flash (terran) 2. Jaedong? (Zerg) 3. Jangbi(Protoss) 4. Bisu (Protoss) 5. MMA?(terran) 6 Fantasy(Terran) 7. MVP(terran) 8. zero(zerg) 9. Huk(Protoss) 10. MC(Protoss)
Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20
MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.
If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.
Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.
Nestea would be probably around top 15. Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.  Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so.
The fact that Huk is in the list and not Stork offends me greatly
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Actually a great way to get BW fans to at least give SC2 a chance is for SC2 fans to simply grind on them with "MVP is better than Flash", "Nestea would whoop Jaedong" etc, it will probably make them more interested in having that discussion rather than the deadend, boring and tired SC2 vs BW discussion.
Once they see their heroes play the games some of them outright hate, they might even lower their shields and accept the game. Again its something for GOM and Kespa to ponder, to market this in a way to get most people interested
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On October 30 2011 05:12 Tyree wrote: Actually a great way to get BW fans to at least give SC2 a chance is for SC2 fans to simply grind on them with "MVP is better than Flash", "Nestea would whoop Jaedong" etc, it will probably make them more interested in having that discussion rather than the deadend, boring and tired SC2 vs BW discussion.
Once they see their heroes play the games some of them outright hate, they might even lower their shields and accept the game. Again its something for GOM and Kespa to ponder, to market this in a way to get most people interested well they realize that argument is pointless. MVP would stomp flash in SC2
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On October 30 2011 05:17 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 05:12 Tyree wrote: Actually a great way to get BW fans to at least give SC2 a chance is for SC2 fans to simply grind on them with "MVP is better than Flash", "Nestea would whoop Jaedong" etc, it will probably make them more interested in having that discussion rather than the deadend, boring and tired SC2 vs BW discussion.
Once they see their heroes play the games some of them outright hate, they might even lower their shields and accept the game. Again its something for GOM and Kespa to ponder, to market this in a way to get most people interested well they realize that argument is pointless. MVP would stomp flash in SC2 i give flash a month at most, before he monopolizes sc2
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