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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 21:40:17
October 29 2011 21:39 GMT
#1981
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 29 2011 21:40 GMT
#1982
On October 30 2011 06:33 blubbdavid wrote:
Here, folks, is a SC2 fan trying to understand and appreciate BW. Follow him, you noobs!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281


a true enthusiast. Hats off to you sir for trying to learn.
The Notorious Winkles
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 29 2011 21:52 GMT
#1983
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o


Poor Zero. Woongjin's Ace, reduced to being lower than a Woongjin Terran.
Writer:o
Jiver
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada48 Posts
October 29 2011 21:58 GMT
#1984
It would be interesting to see how many pros switching decide to change their race :D
My spoon is too big!
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 29 2011 22:02 GMT
#1985
On October 30 2011 06:52 seraphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o


Poor Zero. Woongjin's Ace, reduced to being lower than a Woongjin Terran.

Hahaha, I know right?
Heh, at least they have Light now . So Woongjin Terran status isn't as bad as when MVP was playing BW .

Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
October 29 2011 22:03 GMT
#1986
On October 28 2011 20:06 DreamRaider wrote:
The time to prove the "brood war players will dominate the sc2 scene" theory has come.


My thoughts exactly. The bw guys has been talking like the BW players will dominate SC2 like the koreans have dominated MLG, so it will be interesting to see.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:06:46
October 29 2011 22:06 GMT
#1987
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o

MVP sub-top 50? You're overestimating how much better BW pros are going to be... to extremes lol. Am I being trolled?
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 29 2011 22:06 GMT
#1988
On October 30 2011 07:02 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 06:52 seraphe wrote:
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o


Poor Zero. Woongjin's Ace, reduced to being lower than a Woongjin Terran.

Hahaha, I know right?
Heh, at least they have Light now . So Woongjin Terran status isn't as bad as when MVP was playing BW .


Light's kinda been getting worse and worse, so as to become a true Woongjin Terran like MVP was.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 29 2011 22:09 GMT
#1989
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/590_MVP/games

MVP wasn't exactly a total scrub in BW. He's beaten Flash, Jangbi, Stork, Baby, Kal, Snow... There's no way MVP would suddenly be bumped to below top 50 by TBLS, I'd be very surprised if he didn't remain a top 10 player for a long time after the big BW pros switch.
I am the Town Medic.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
October 29 2011 22:09 GMT
#1990
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

What the fuck is this lol
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
October 29 2011 22:15 GMT
#1991
wow, you guys don't know' anything yet. let's wait and see for the results.

To be cursing at my predictions is kind of pathetic and rude BM for you.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
October 29 2011 22:15 GMT
#1992
On October 30 2011 07:06 Razuik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o

MVP sub-top 50? You're overestimating how much better BW pros are going to be... to extremes lol. Am I being trolled?


exactly.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
October 29 2011 22:16 GMT
#1993
On October 30 2011 07:15 chatuka wrote:
wow, you guys don't know' anything yet. let's wait and see for the results.

To be cursing at my predictions is kind of pathetic and rude BM for you.

Honestly, the most shocking thing is putting MMA above MVP; however, that's an argument for another thread I think. :D
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
October 29 2011 22:17 GMT
#1994
On October 30 2011 04:23 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.


Oh dear. I wanted to question JangBi's spot over Bisu, but then I saw the rest of the list and it made even less sense.

Sun and Wooki alone have the potential to be better than any current Protoss in SC2. It's not only S Class players that would switch, in fact they'll probably be the last to do so.



how does it even make less sense? hmm?.. it's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it..
it would not be out of the possibility of MMA and MVP to remain in the top ten..

that is my belief.. and we will see who is right.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 29 2011 22:21 GMT
#1995
TBH if we are going with which BW players will dominate SC2, Baby is the only one i can see doing it. no one else will make the switch until it's too late and be good enough and have enough time to practice to get good. baby is skilled enough, young enough, and paid enough to switch.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
October 29 2011 22:22 GMT
#1996
On October 30 2011 04:56 grudgeStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.


If HuK would be anywhere near the top 10 if these players started playing SC2 fulltime I would seriously quit this game.

we will find out and see who has the last laugh.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
October 29 2011 22:23 GMT
#1997
On October 30 2011 05:42 roymarthyup wrote:
the bw pro with the most promise in SC2 is jaedong. Jaedong still has all of his mechanics and is injury free and is even better than he was at any time because jaedong is still owning the young bloods in bw that should be owning him but it isnt happening.

Also i feel sc2 zerg played right is nigh unstoppable against terran. Give it a few more months and the ZvT metagame will be completely figured out. Lategame ghosts will be countered by mass overseers (to stop them from getting sniped) + mass lings and a dozen roaches + a few banelings /infestors/broodlords/ultras. By the time terran even gets to the point to use ghosts, against a good zerg the zerg should be massively ahead in econ to field the perfect counter. nestea just didnt know how to react properly in that shakuras game, but once zergs have more lategame experience against top terrans soon it will be figured out how to absolutely crush ghosts and terran will be left with nothing else and zerg will reign supreme. Of course this is all just my theory, so whatever, but i believe zerg truly is the strongest race and terran is only reigning right now because the metagame hasnt been figured out


regardless, even if my theory is wrong and zerg is not overpowered compared to terran and is just equal compared to terran, still my point was simply that jaedong is the bw pro with the most promise because IMO zerg is not a weak race in sc2. so whether or not zerg is overpowered or equal to terran, whatever, i think its one of those possibilities that is the truth and regardless jaedong will reign supreme in either possibility


Flash on the other hand has way too much injury and will soon retire. His injuries are growing way worse every year and and its such a shame that a great RTS mind has to go out to injury. Very sad for flash indeed.


It doesn't really seem like you know much about the BW scene. JD is in the worst spot he's been in years. By no means is he down and out but his ZvZ and ZvP aren't exactly setting the world on fire. Also, Flash started complaining about his wrist towards the end of last year maybe? Kind of tough to say that his injuries are growing worse every year when he's only been injured for one year. Also, he's just had successful surgery, again not to say beyond a reasonable doubt he'll be fine but you can say it with more certainty than he'll soon retire.

Assuming they all switch (big assumption), if Flash's wrist is fine he'll most likely be the best of the batch. The advantage he holds against all other BW players is his decision making and that will transfer perfectly to SC2. For me it is difficult to rank all the other BW players if they were to switch, but so long as Flash's body holds out I know he'll be the best.

Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:28:29
October 29 2011 22:27 GMT
#1998
On October 30 2011 07:06 Razuik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 06:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 30 2011 02:18 chatuka wrote:
I think MMA could compete if he trains hard enough and eats healthy food. brain food no toxic non-sense

top SC2 players could go like this.

1. Flash (terran)
2. Jaedong? (Zerg)
3. Jangbi(Protoss)
4. Bisu (Protoss)
5. MMA?(terran)
6 Fantasy(Terran)
7. MVP(terran)
8. zero(zerg)
9. Huk(Protoss)
10. MC(Protoss)

Shuttle, Calm, Hyuk are probably top 20

MKP, Ryung, Puzzle, Rainbow are top 50.

If Effort gets back in the money game.. he could be a dark horse.

Stephano is also a wild card. he could be top five he decides SC2 as a career.

Nestea would be probably around top 15.

Am I being trolled?
Let's be realistic here. MVP would be extremely lucky to be in the top 50 if and when the pro BW teams switch. Stephano top 5? What am I seeing? O_o

MVP sub-top 50? You're overestimating how much better BW pros are going to be... to extremes lol. Am I being trolled?

Sure he could be in top 30 or top 20. But MVP couldn't compete with the top in anything in BW. He was far behind players like Jaedong, Zero, Bisu, Flash, Stork, Hydra, Effort, Snow, Calm, Fantasy etc etc in ALL aspects of the game: micro, macro, game sense, timing, preparation. I see no reason that he should remain in the top if these players decide to switch. And I whole heartedly hope they don't switch!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
fros7
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada32 Posts
October 29 2011 22:28 GMT
#1999
This really all sounds like a classic my dad could beat up your dad at this point.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
October 29 2011 22:28 GMT
#2000
I'm thinking if this does happen 6 months from now we will be seeing a surge of casters pop up in the foreign scene.

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