So there is all this talk about how "the new sc2 fans dont understand our history"
Well teach me.
Tell me why this game you all love is so amazing, teach me why flash/bisu/jaedong/boxer were all so amazing.
Show me our favorite vods, tell me why I need to be appreciative. I want to learn.
I've played a few matches on iccup and omg is it hard, and I want to hear about these experiences from a hardened fan.
I want to at least have an understanding of broodwar so I can fully appreciate how far esports has come, so I can understand why a boxer/idea match is amazing, and why flash possibly coming to sc2 is a big deal.
Teach me, as a young sc2 fan who only knows StarCraft as sc2, please teach us all.
edit: Watching these now. OMG OMG OMG OMG is the passion amazing. the casters are awesome, and even though I don't really understand the game, I can kinda begin to understand why you guys care so much.
Here are some of my favorite VODs on youtube for broodwar. See how much enthusiasm the commentators put into the game, the unparalleled suspense and excitement a certain comeback, rush or moment can give. Anyways I'm not a skilled forum poster but here are some of the moments of broodwar that I loved in the broodwar scene.
Honestly, my first suggestion is to get your hands on a copy of SC BW and play a few games against the computer, see how hard controlling things is, realize that without automine making workers is even more of a chore, etc. That will give you an appreciation of how difficult BW is on a mechanical level. Then I suggest digging up some english casts of great past games from youtube (I suggest klazart because I enjoyed his casting, but there are others such as cholera and diggity), and watch them. I'm at work so I can't exactly link any VODs/casts right now, but I'm sure someone can. Having English commentary helps in understanding what the heck is going on if you aren't familiar with the game.
You can always read liquipedia for additional information, and IIRC there is a thread with the best game/series ever somewhere in the BW section, I'm sure you could find it with a quick search.
Do you like DongRaeGu's ZvT style? Crisp Mutalisk control, fantastic engagements, terran armies disappearing in miliseconds, even the best of the best representatives of Terran race getting trashed? Do you think he's the first to reach the horizon of the matchup?
HELL NO!!!
Meet the guy who created that horizon: Lee Jae Dong
Entertaining cheese? Evil Genius in action? Creativity? Innovation?
Watch this rookie doing all of these on the best ZvTer alive:
Frankly, I'm pretty new to the BW scene, as i only started watching vods in late 2009. As such, I'm not well equipped to discuss the game's history, but i can point you to some great series that were recently played, in each non-mirror matchup, since just like in Sc2 these tend to be the most interesting. All vods have commentary, and you can find links to the later vods in the series on Youtube.
Jin Air OSL Finals - Fantasy v Jangbi - In the previous OSL, Fantasy won by defeating Jangbi's teammate and fellow Protoss player Stork. Jangbi, after having been in a persistent slump for almost a year, started playing very well toward the end of Proleague, and advanced to the finals of this OSL with a Ro8 win against Flash and a Ro4 win against young ZvP specialist Soo.
Game 1, with commentary from Nukethestars -
Bacchus OSL Semi Finals - Calm vs Fantasy - Another crazy series involving Fantasy, wherein he faces off against solid STX zerg player Calm. Technically speaking, this series sees both players play rather poorly, but it is still tremendously entertaining. The highlight occurs in game 4, where Fantasy goes fast gas, gets 4 pooled, defends, and goes for a unique response.
Game 1, with commentary from Nukethestars -
Bigfile MSL Ro8 - Snow v Jaedong - Jaedong, the reigning king of the zerg, faces off against young CJ protoss Snow, who up to this point had shown amazing PvT and not much else in the other matchups. In game one, Jaedong rolls over him, and everyone expects a 3-0. However, a week later when they return to finish the series, Snow plays the best PvZ of his life, and gives us one of the best series of the season.
Game 2 (skipping game 1, since it's basically a walkover), with commentary from RanshinDA -
On October 29 2011 01:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: be specific in what you want to know,I will help you as much as I can.
In short, everything.
What should a sc2 fan know about the broodwar scene in order to fully apprecciate this great series of games?
If I wanted to learn about flash and jaedong, where should I go?
I really wanted to cleave this thread up to the broodwar community - what do you think a new sc2 fan needs to know.
I don't know if you actually played BW yet, but if you really want to enjoy the VODs you watch, you should try playing it first. SC2BW (on appropriate settings of course) even if you don't have BW, once you've played a few games I think you can appreciate watching the pros more.
Guys, when were posting vods for people who haven't watched BW, we really should post them with english commentary. Remember, in all likelihood they've never watched games without it.
On October 29 2011 01:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: be specific in what you want to know,I will help you as much as I can.
In short, everything.
What should a sc2 fan know about the broodwar scene in order to fully apprecciate this great series of games?
If I wanted to learn about flash and jaedong, where should I go?
I really wanted to cleave this thread up to the broodwar community - what do you think a new sc2 fan needs to know.
I don't know if you actually played BW yet, but if you really want to enjoy the VODs you watch, you should try playing it first. SC2BW (on appropriate settings of course) even if you don't have BW, once you've played a few games I think you can appreciate watching the pros more.
I have played a few games against the computer. It was hard
On October 29 2011 02:26 deafhobbit wrote: Guys, when were posting vods for people who haven't watched BW, we really should post them with english commentary. Remember, in all likelihood they've never watched games without it.
TSL 1 and 2 would be a good place for you to start watching vods for BW. TSL2 playlist is on the YouTube channel nevake along with most vods in BW history.
i dont know what i can tell you but i'll share some of my favourite vods and see if u are amazed by them...
though it has such a bad quality, it think it is the best SC video i have seen it clearly demonstrates why starcraft is an art, why it is superior to other games.
goon vs vul + tank, this is a must in bw pvt, and sometimes it can be so epic, just like this one.
my idol reach great storm against flash, nice storm+nice flank
an of cuz this one is probably the most epic moment in foreign sc scene... nony vs idra. great storm
On October 29 2011 01:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: be specific in what you want to know,I will help you as much as I can.
In short, everything.
What should a sc2 fan know about the broodwar scene in order to fully apprecciate this great series of games?
If I wanted to learn about flash and jaedong, where should I go?
I really wanted to cleave this thread up to the broodwar community - what do you think a new sc2 fan needs to know.
I don't know if you actually played BW yet, but if you really want to enjoy the VODs you watch, you should try playing it first. SC2BW (on appropriate settings of course) even if you don't have BW, once you've played a few games I think you can appreciate watching the pros more.
I have played a few games against the computer. It was hard
Maybe try the campaign before. I's nice, and more progressive. The computer is not that hard, but you need to know what you're doing to beat him. He also only has two strat per race, except for terran, just one. It's almost impossible to go play 1v1 on iCCup without having watched progames/replays/read liquipedia though. For watching, it all depends on your tastes. BW has inspired cheese, long macro games, epic comebacks, odd strat not making sense, micro moments, harass heavy games, well, you name it, it exists.
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