• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:21
CEST 18:21
KST 01:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence7Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups3WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1711 users

teach me your ways - Page 13

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 Next All
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 18:04:25
November 02 2011 18:04 GMT
#241
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link

LOL at Bisu's unique traits being multitasking and sexiness.

Edit: in a good way, of course
May the BeSt man win.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 18:10:08
November 02 2011 18:09 GMT
#242
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link

Nice. I wonder why Jaedong vs Flash on RH3 wasn't included in the recommended list though.

And I prefer God of Destruction as a nickname instead of Legend Killer.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
November 02 2011 18:38 GMT
#243
On November 03 2011 03:09 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link

Nice. I wonder why Jaedong vs Flash on RH3 wasn't included in the recommended list though.

And I prefer God of Destruction as a nickname instead of Legend Killer.


Heresy! There is only one God
Vortigan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark306 Posts
November 02 2011 18:50 GMT
#244
what a sick sick thread. Haven't watched BW in a while (besides som Flash games) but damn this is just a trip down memory lane. Also there's a ton here i', not sure i've seen before.

Good to see how welcoming people are in this thread. Makes u feel good lol...
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 02 2011 21:34 GMT
#245
On November 03 2011 03:04 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link

LOL at Bisu's unique traits being multitasking and sexiness.

Edit: in a good way, of course

Hhahahaha Stork: "Winning Silvers". Got that right!
Jaedong.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 02 2011 21:48 GMT
#246
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link


Wow ZvZ sure has been hard forJD in recent times, remember when he just couldnt lose in that matchup and had the ridiculous win %?
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
November 02 2011 21:59 GMT
#247
On November 03 2011 02:06 Grettin wrote:
Apparently someone has made a introductory "post" to get into broodwar.

Reddit link


Kept waiting for some hate posts at the bottom but I see none, so that's good. I make a reddit account just so I could upvote that.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
November 02 2011 23:27 GMT
#248
Hey guys, I wrote that thread.

Let me know if you have any recommendations.

I am Nanashin born and bred.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 04 2011 07:05 GMT
#249
OMG.... Dude you know what I realize no one has ever told any sc2 player ever?

Mutalisks. They don't understand what mutalisks were like in BW.

The thing is, You've never used a mutalisk. They are INSANELY hard to control, stack, move, attack with, and also Very fragile!!! As a D Zerg i hate zvt because i have NO idea how to effectively use mutalisks.

Here is a basic FPVOD of muta micro



Don't look that good right? half the mutas in this video are at half health.

ok now look at this tutorial


(RET!!!!!!!! )

The thing is, at the pro level, mutalisks can 100% pick a part a T player whos turrets are just 5 seconds too late.

Watch Jaedong Dismantle Upmagic



ZvZ used to be exciting too, Hydra plays at 600apm btw.



I LOVE ZVZ

Scourge were cool too, they were 200 dmg suicide bombs and that could hit and kill everything or nothing :O :O

anyways hopefully you now have some more respect for mutas. and this is another reason i don't like sc2, because muta harass is just NO where near as good.
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 04 2011 07:05 GMT
#250
Everyone post the best muta micro vids!!! ><
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 04 2011 07:23 GMT
#251
hydra v jaedong games are the best to watch if you want to see muta micro at it's best.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
November 04 2011 07:36 GMT
#252
On November 04 2011 16:23 Sawamura wrote:
hydra v jaedong games are the best to watch if you want to see muta micro at it's best make yourself depressed.

May the BeSt man win.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 04 2011 08:07 GMT
#253
Hydra doesn't have 600 APM and scourge do 110 damage, not 200.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
phatymatyT
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
November 04 2011 16:12 GMT
#254
I haven't watched brood war for over a year, but I'd really like to start watching again this coming season. The only problem is I don't know who is who any more! Can you guys get me up to speed on things? I know the obvious good players right now, but I want to know about the other guys.

Who is up and coming right now?
Who does teamliquid really like/hate to watch and why?
What teams should dominate this season?
Is there anything I should know about from last season?

Bisu was kinda slumping back when I was last watching, but I'm seeing his name everywhere these days -- he's back in top shape? Is calm still good?
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:26:39
November 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#255
Bisu attained most wins ever in proleague last year.

Flash is still beastly but just had surgery.

Jaedong is still amazing by ordinary standards but last year wasn't his best.

Effort is coming back and is said to be really good.

Stork is a perpetual mystery, but still has it in him.

Baby seems to have stabilized at about A-level.

Hydra become good out of nowhere.

Zero leveled up.

Jaehoon leveled up several times in a row. He plays for real now.

Kal went to Air Force Ace to get his head screwed on straight after getting smacked around by Flash and Jaedong so much.

Fantasy is still Fantasy. Kicks ass in playoffs and OSL, veers wildly in proleague.

Oh yeah, and Jangbi just won an OSL, avenged the protoss race, and saved Brood War forever. Root for him at all times.

FBH has somehow transformed ACE into an actual team and is someone to look out for.

Calm is... Calm.

KT, SKT, CJ, and the new team are expected to lead the new proleague season. KHAN and Woongjin could go toe-to-toe with them. ACE is doing great for ACE but won't win proleague. STX... they have problems.


Edit: hahahah forgot Light. Yeah, Light is #7 on ELO, he's doing just fine.
May the BeSt man win.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 05 2011 03:11 GMT
#256
On November 03 2011 08:27 Fiel wrote:
Hey guys, I wrote that thread.

Let me know if you have any recommendations.

I am Nanashin born and bred.

oh hi fiel. <3 i saw the thread and didnt notice your username. youre so good at writing long posts rofl.
phatymatyT
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
November 05 2011 12:53 GMT
#257
On November 05 2011 01:24 Djabanete wrote:
Bisu attained most wins ever in proleague last year.

Flash is still beastly but just had surgery.

Jaedong is still amazing by ordinary standards but last year wasn't his best.

Effort is coming back and is said to be really good.

Stork is a perpetual mystery, but still has it in him.

Baby seems to have stabilized at about A-level.

Hydra become good out of nowhere.

Zero leveled up.

Jaehoon leveled up several times in a row. He plays for real now.

Kal went to Air Force Ace to get his head screwed on straight after getting smacked around by Flash and Jaedong so much.

Fantasy is still Fantasy. Kicks ass in playoffs and OSL, veers wildly in proleague.

Oh yeah, and Jangbi just won an OSL, avenged the protoss race, and saved Brood War forever. Root for him at all times.

FBH has somehow transformed ACE into an actual team and is someone to look out for.

Calm is... Calm.

KT, SKT, CJ, and the new team are expected to lead the new proleague season. KHAN and Woongjin could go toe-to-toe with them. ACE is doing great for ACE but won't win proleague. STX... they have problems.


Edit: hahahah forgot Light. Yeah, Light is #7 on ELO, he's doing just fine.



Awesome Thanks! I'm just checking out recent ELO. Some names are unfamiliar, but I'm sure I'll catch on. Awesome to hear Light is doing well. How are sea and mind doing? Movie? Is Leta still building wraiths?

I'm sure the game is played out pretty similar to a year ago, but are there any new strategic trends floating out there? Last I watched, terran players were just starting to mech more often against zerg and sometimes even doing little valkyrie builds with bio or mech. Zerg were starting to 2 hatch a lot more often against terran. TvP was just the usual slugfest. Fantasy was really into his drop play against protoss and stork was playing beautiful pvt. Zvp was all sim city and snipping templar, etc.
KasdaTheEmperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Croatia239 Posts
November 05 2011 13:03 GMT
#258
THIS is how mutalisks are to be controlled:


This one is also good (note: whole game linked)



''Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in raising up everytime we fall''
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:14:00
November 05 2011 13:09 GMT
#259
On November 05 2011 21:53 phatymatyT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:24 Djabanete wrote:
Bisu attained most wins ever in proleague last year.

Flash is still beastly but just had surgery.

Jaedong is still amazing by ordinary standards but last year wasn't his best.

Effort is coming back and is said to be really good.

Stork is a perpetual mystery, but still has it in him.

Baby seems to have stabilized at about A-level.

Hydra become good out of nowhere.

Zero leveled up.

Jaehoon leveled up several times in a row. He plays for real now.

Kal went to Air Force Ace to get his head screwed on straight after getting smacked around by Flash and Jaedong so much.

Fantasy is still Fantasy. Kicks ass in playoffs and OSL, veers wildly in proleague.

Oh yeah, and Jangbi just won an OSL, avenged the protoss race, and saved Brood War forever. Root for him at all times.

FBH has somehow transformed ACE into an actual team and is someone to look out for.

Calm is... Calm.

KT, SKT, CJ, and the new team are expected to lead the new proleague season. KHAN and Woongjin could go toe-to-toe with them. ACE is doing great for ACE but won't win proleague. STX... they have problems.


Edit: hahahah forgot Light. Yeah, Light is #7 on ELO, he's doing just fine.



Awesome Thanks! I'm just checking out recent ELO. Some names are unfamiliar, but I'm sure I'll catch on. Awesome to hear Light is doing well. How are sea and mind doing? Movie? Is Leta still building wraiths?

I'm sure the game is played out pretty similar to a year ago, but are there any new strategic trends floating out there? Last I watched, terran players were just starting to mech more often against zerg and sometimes even doing little valkyrie builds with bio or mech. Zerg were starting to 2 hatch a lot more often against terran. TvP was just the usual slugfest. Fantasy was really into his drop play against protoss and stork was playing beautiful pvt. Zvp was all sim city and snipping templar, etc.


Don't be so sure recent proleague games has change PvZ now has so many timing attacks to kill zergs these days it's just so amazing , TvT has now been divided in to two types of play wraith vs wraith or Dropship . Flash is dominating TvT now days compared to last year 2010 where he didn't even make it through msl . Zerg these days do a mixture of 3 hatch lurker drops and 3 hatch muta , Jaedong goes for his standard Muta micro and zergling flanking on the ground for a sure kill on the first batch of mnm trying to get map control .

TvP now days is mostly Carrier Fest with the return of 2 base carrier and ground troops to support it , Protoss has finally found a solution to protect their high templars from getting emp that is by keeping them in the shuttle until they are needed . ZvP these days are pretty much Muta's or Hydra or if you like Hive tech play Action won a game from Bisu really convincingly talking about mass flanking and PLAGUEEEEEe .

Fantasy in these year Jin Air Osl 2011 plays surprisingly standard in TvP and he got rolled over Jangbi , on the other hand his Mech TvZ has been figured out by zero and Neo G Soulkey by using queens to snipe tanks with broodling . Broodwar has never gone dull , Game has been a mixture of really aggressive opening these days . The game is still changing <3.

ZvP now days going solely with a single unit type without mixing your units , like zergling,hydra,muta,lurkers to flank protoss army you don't stand a single chance .

If you haven't been watching bw lately you should watch (Z)Action famous late game play vs (P)Bisu

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
phatymatyT
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
November 05 2011 13:37 GMT
#260
Wow it feels like I missed so much! Thanks for the update.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #225
iHatsuTV 38
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 294
Creator 172
ProTech92
UpATreeSC 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6662
Rain 3543
Bisu 3359
Flash 2495
GuemChi 1898
PianO 1507
Zeus 1117
EffOrt 832
Mini 573
BeSt 425
[ Show more ]
ZerO 289
hero 197
Soulkey 196
Mind 156
ggaemo 129
Snow 117
Rush 96
Backho 95
Hyun 78
Mong 69
sorry 59
Movie 38
Aegong 37
JYJ33
Dewaltoss 33
soO 32
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
HiyA 12
Sacsri 11
Terrorterran 11
IntoTheRainbow 8
SilentControl 5
Noble 2
Hm[arnc] 2
Dota 2
Gorgc7198
singsing3643
qojqva3459
Dendi1567
Fuzer 276
XcaliburYe148
Counter-Strike
zeus668
oskar179
Other Games
hiko1409
B2W.Neo959
Hui .509
ceh9426
Lowko331
crisheroes311
FrodaN307
RotterdaM213
Beastyqt127
QueenE112
Trikslyr54
FunKaTv 52
NeuroSwarm38
ZerO(Twitch)19
fpsfer 2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 18
• Michael_bg 5
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4531
• WagamamaTV485
League of Legends
• Nemesis5046
• TFBlade524
Other Games
• Shiphtur191
Upcoming Events
OSC
6h 39m
PiGosaur Monday
7h 39m
LiuLi Cup
18h 39m
OSC
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
1d 20h
RSL Revival
2 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.