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Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 30 2011 19:29 GMT
#201
question:

why is it so hard to find Flash's FPvods than others?
I can find tons of Bisu, Jaedong etc. FPvods but Flash.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 21:07:08
October 30 2011 21:06 GMT
#202
After seeing some of this vods there are 2 big things that i notice that SC2 seems to lack to big wow moments.

Huge armies that fill an entire screen and more, (not a ball of units like SC2), and lacking of micro, with fast responding units (very high aceleration). Muta micro for instance looks much less impressive in SC2 because they take so long to acelerate compared to BW.
LEGAsee
Profile Joined January 2010
170 Posts
October 30 2011 22:36 GMT
#203
On October 31 2011 06:06 Apolo wrote:
After seeing some of this vods there are 2 big things that i notice that SC2 seems to lack to big wow moments.

Huge armies that fill an entire screen and more, (not a ball of units like SC2), and lacking of micro, with fast responding units (very high aceleration). Muta micro for instance looks much less impressive in SC2 because they take so long to acelerate compared to BW.


Mutas don't accelerate that fast in BW either, it's just that you don't let them slow down to begin with, that's the trick.
Brood War has been a part of our lives for the last 12 years. No, we don't want change.
Ranshin
Profile Joined September 2009
7 Posts
October 30 2011 23:15 GMT
#204
This thread makes me smile.
Be a man, grin and bear it.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10252 Posts
October 30 2011 23:20 GMT
#205
On October 31 2011 08:15 Ranshin wrote:
This thread makes me smile.

OMGOMGOMGOMG RANSHIN!!! :D

oh yes this game makes me smile deep inside since i am as big of a fan of savior as klazart. also the very first starcraft game i ever watched
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 23:25:26
October 30 2011 23:24 GMT
#206
On October 31 2011 07:36 LEGAsee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 06:06 Apolo wrote:
After seeing some of this vods there are 2 big things that i notice that SC2 seems to lack to big wow moments.

Huge armies that fill an entire screen and more, (not a ball of units like SC2), and lacking of micro, with fast responding units (very high aceleration). Muta micro for instance looks much less impressive in SC2 because they take so long to acelerate compared to BW.


Mutas don't accelerate that fast in BW either, it's just that you don't let them slow down to begin with, that's the trick.

The game requires that the units stop to release one of those glaves so they gimped that unit in a different game.

( Even the unit sounds are superb )
This type of harass isn't possible unfortunately.
http://www.gomtv.net/classics3/vod/732
This is one is sort of similar, but done by a terran instead of a zerg. ( Commentators = White kids though )
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 30 2011 23:43 GMT
#207


YellOw: Out of his prime, on ACE and facing Bisu.

The map is heartbreak ridge and YellOw chooses to go for an unorthodox lurker drop..!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
October 31 2011 00:06 GMT
#208
There's just so many to watch lol When does the next OSL/MSL start?
People who want power shouldn't have it.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 31 2011 00:59 GMT
#209
On October 31 2011 09:06 imjorman wrote:
There's just so many to watch lol When does the next OSL/MSL start?


november i think? they delayed because of the team issue.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
moochu
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia374 Posts
October 31 2011 02:10 GMT
#210
On October 30 2011 18:40 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 17:18 HellionDrop wrote:
BW feels so different from SC2. I kinda played it wayyyyy back then , and now i forgot most of the thing already. all i knew was making BCs, lol. i think BW graphic really is out of date, the visual appealing could use some work. i play sc2 exclusively, in sc2 because units are so easy to control, and you can select the entire army at once, because of that every big battle ends in about 10~20 sec. however, in BW, the battle seem to lasts longer and two armies can't really a move into each other. Battles between two pros are also very methodological and fun to watch. i hope they would introduce this type of play in Hots but the new units just steer sc2 away from BW even more so. i think i understand why many BW wouldn't want to switch to sc2, cuz it doesn't resemble BW at all.

I play SC2 exclusively now too for the same reasons you do: the game is just so much easier to play.

I still believe that BW is the superior game by a gargantuan margin, though. I just burned out trying to get better when I couldn't get out of D+ after six months of play, lol.


and that is why pro bw is impressive, despite hours of practice there is no way i could do jangbi storms, jaedong multi muta micro etc etc.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 31 2011 03:24 GMT
#211
2004 Ever OSL.

This is the tournament where YellOw got bunker rushed 3 times over.
This is also where a student and his master fought over first place.

Boxer vs iloveoov. Boxer, known for his micro intensive strategies, and iloveoov known as the monster terran for his rampaging macro.

Game One:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLh555tCyjc

Game Two:
+ Show Spoiler +

Game Three:
+ Show Spoiler +

Game Four:
+ Show Spoiler +


Game Five:
+ Show Spoiler +


Result:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 31 2011 03:53 GMT
#212
On October 31 2011 11:10 moochu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 18:40 PH wrote:
On October 30 2011 17:18 HellionDrop wrote:
BW feels so different from SC2. I kinda played it wayyyyy back then , and now i forgot most of the thing already. all i knew was making BCs, lol. i think BW graphic really is out of date, the visual appealing could use some work. i play sc2 exclusively, in sc2 because units are so easy to control, and you can select the entire army at once, because of that every big battle ends in about 10~20 sec. however, in BW, the battle seem to lasts longer and two armies can't really a move into each other. Battles between two pros are also very methodological and fun to watch. i hope they would introduce this type of play in Hots but the new units just steer sc2 away from BW even more so. i think i understand why many BW wouldn't want to switch to sc2, cuz it doesn't resemble BW at all.

I play SC2 exclusively now too for the same reasons you do: the game is just so much easier to play.

I still believe that BW is the superior game by a gargantuan margin, though. I just burned out trying to get better when I couldn't get out of D+ after six months of play, lol.


and that is why pro bw is impressive, despite hours of practice there is no way i could do jangbi storms, jaedong multi muta micro etc etc.

Exactly. I honestly dislike SC2. I hate the deathballs and all that, but I'm addicted to Squad TD right now, and my friends and I play team games a lot.

BW has a permanent place in my heart. ^_^
Hello
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 04:38:01
October 31 2011 04:36 GMT
#213
no stork reaver love?
monster kill:


micro!


i enjoy watching sc2 but i never drooled the same way as i did in bw in moments like these..
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
October 31 2011 05:33 GMT
#214
ok let me tell you about a protoss who wasnt as mechanically gifted as bisu and doesnt have the level of game knowledge as stork, but he produced the sickest games when he was at his best. This may also be something to remind everyone including the bw fans of him since he is somewhat forgotten right now.

Let me introduce to you, my hero, Violet. (I hope you come back this season, I miss you).

Yeah he wasnt the best protoss, but god damn, trust me when I say this, but you feel more "Thrill" in his games than watching the best protosses out there. Let me give you examples.

vs Bisu - a super intense PvP.


vs Hogil - a crazy crazy PvZ on one of my favorite maps, HBR


vs Hyuk - watch it and youll probably scream like a little girl too


vs Hero - contained me? ok ill just make some hts and bust out later


actually just search for his games from 2009 onward. you'll find many good games.

Also, GET WELL SOON VIOLET!
Woo Jung Ho
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
October 31 2011 06:02 GMT
#215
If you want to see some of the most artistic, and simply jaw dropping strategy and tactics- check out savior. He was the best management style zerg of his time, simply unstoppable!
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
October 31 2011 08:55 GMT
#216
IloveKT, you suck for not posting this one:



over 70 drone kills through stormdrops.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 11:23:30
October 31 2011 11:15 GMT
#217
oh, btw small-unit group micro is also what makes bw fun

an example: (at 8min 55s mark)


as well as large-scale battles that doesn't end in 5 seconds
(at 12m 05s mark)
POGGERS
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 12:40:36
October 31 2011 12:36 GMT
#218
(spoilers)
This game should have 1 million views. GGplay maybe wasnt the best zerg of his era, but he played this particular game like he was. His multitasking and crisis managment in this game could be on par with modern top zergs easily. This game has all, plagues, swarms, hold lurkers, flanking, harrasing, drops. The moment when GGplay control like 4 control groups of units and trying to flank iris from all sides... man. Iris was doing all he could, but GGplay deflected almost everything Iris throwed at him.

I still dont know how the fuck did he defend that upper expo, iris killed his nydus and ggplay managed to cast like 5 swarms of irradiated defiler.... :O He also killed like 15-20 vessels in that game. Incredible game, probably the best zvt of all time for me, also given the fact it was OSL finals ace match and 3game comeback from ggpplay makes it one of best SC experience you can get.

Stork[gm]
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 31 2011 12:41 GMT
#219
On October 31 2011 21:36 bgx wrote:
(spoilers)
This game should have 1 million views. GGplay maybe wasnt the best zerg of his era, but he played this particular game like he was. His multitasking and crisis managment in this game could be on par with modern top zergs easily. This game has all, plagues, swarms, hold lurkers, flanking, harrasing, drops. The moment when GGplay control like 4 control groups of units and trying to flank iris from all sides... man. Iris was doing all he could, but GGplay deflected almost everything Iris throwed at him.

I still dont know how the fuck did he defend that upper expo, iris killed his nydus and ggplay managed to cast like 5 swarms of irradiated defiler.... :O He also killed like 15-20 vessels in that game. Incredible game, probably the best zvt of all time for me, also given the fact it was OSL finals ace match and 3game comeback from ggpplay makes it one of best SC experience you can get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5W6aIyBx5U

i blogged about it some time ago, it still is one of the most spinechilling nerdgasmic moment in BW history for me.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=153906

the whole game was a masterpiece, beautifully played by both.
POGGERS
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 31 2011 13:49 GMT
#220
On October 31 2011 04:03 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I may be a Starcraft II player now but this games still does emotional shit to me I can't explain.
I really wish I could have been apart of the Teamliquid community when I played Broodwar -_-

But... you can!
May the BeSt man win.
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