imbalance exists in early beta. news at 11.

seriously as others have said this is the easiest fix ever. super cheap research, or require a cybercore.

Wrongspeedy

United States1655 Posts

October 22 2011 23:09 GMT

#83

The new PvP 4 gate.

hYdrA-MeNo

Mexico344 Posts

October 22 2011 23:10 GMT

#84

im absoluty sure that by beta that spell will only work on things like forges and any building that produces unites, and or tech buildings like templars arch.

Neb1000

United States183 Posts

October 22 2011 23:12 GMT

#85

It shouldn't be able to be on pylons or assimilators.

ampson

United States2355 Posts

October 22 2011 23:13 GMT

#86

Blizz is gonna make it so that you can't use it on pylons and assimilators I think. Seems like the easiest fix. Don't worry about balance, its the early beta, it will be fixed.

-y0shi-

Germany994 Posts

October 22 2011 23:51 GMT

#87

How the hell did blizzard NOT! see this one coming? Its like the first thing one would think about and sounds totally broken. What the ... ?

emc

United States3088 Posts

October 22 2011 23:57 GMT

#88

make it require cybernetics. There I think that would fix the problem?

It shouldn't effect Pylons, Assimilators OR cannons.

SolidMoose

United States1240 Posts

October 23 2011 00:00 GMT

#89

On October 23 2011 08:57 emc wrote:
make it require cybernetics. There I think that would fix the problem?

It shouldn't effect Pylons, Assimilators OR cannons.

It's gotta be more than cybernetics. T/P still wouldn't have the means to kill of a stolen gas before the cybernetics core finishes. Maybe a marauder first/chrono'd zealot could start attacking it but they would have to pull off the whole mineral line while it was being killed.

susySquark

United States1692 Posts

October 23 2011 00:02 GMT

#90

The design of something like this really highlights how little Blizzard knows about their own game. Turn any building into a cannon? Whats the cheapest building... Assimilator. Where can you build those? Oh, only on gasses. Hey those are always by minerals!

duk3

United States807 Posts

October 23 2011 00:04 GMT

#91

I think that they should have this just apply to the nexus that activates it to prevent these kinds of cheesy attacks.

Brohemoth

United States2 Posts

October 23 2011 00:04 GMT

#92

Its actually not as big a deal as people are making out to be. There's a lesser known way in game to prevent your opponent from stealing your gas, you just need to bring a probe right by the vespene gas to prevent them from taking it.

Demonstrated in the video below.

Scisyhp

United States200 Posts

October 23 2011 00:04 GMT

#93

The problem with the idea of it only working on unit-producing structures is that, at least from my understanding, the whole point of arc shield is to buff protoss in small-numbers engagements that terrans currently dominate (DROPS). Using an arc shield would give the protoss player help in stopping a drop, which would alleviate the difficulty of mass drops just destroying everything because protoss has to send a disproportionately higher amount of units to stop the drop effectively.

If it only worked on unit-producing structures, it would not really be anywhere near as useful for defending far-away expansions, unless you build a warpgate at every single expansion you take.

Orcasgt24

Canada3238 Posts

October 23 2011 00:05 GMT

#94

LOL I was gonna use that as a free trip to GM

. With how quickly I get 50 energy and a refinery I could play 100 games a day easy!

NadaSound

United States227 Posts

October 23 2011 00:11 GMT

#95

It is stuff like this that makes me feel like they have no idea what there doing.

ShatterZer0

United States1843 Posts

October 23 2011 00:15 GMT

#96

you just place your probe next to the assim... then they can't steal gas...

bittman

Australia8759 Posts

October 23 2011 00:41 GMT

#97

On October 23 2011 09:15 ShatterZer0 wrote:
you just place your probe next to the assim... then they can't steal gas...

So don't mine with two probes early in the game is the new PvP metagame?

Yeaaaah. Blizzard designed Protoss and then have zero understanding of it.

Champi

1422 Posts

October 23 2011 00:47 GMT

#98

yeah thats stupid. make arc shield only useable on buildings within a certain radius of your nexus. ez fixed

askTeivospy

1525 Posts

October 23 2011 00:47 GMT

#99

Its obviously designed so that protoss doesnt need to get a forge to defend a 6-8 pool (and thus fall way too behind if the zerg is smart), instead protoss can go standard gateway->cyber and then defend early pool it with the arc shield.

imo make it require a gateway or have it a certain radius should be enough. req on cyber just defeats the purpose