• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:01
CEST 15:01
KST 22:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed12Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft in widescreen A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Segway man no more. US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 720 users

Arc Shield PvP Rush - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:37:39
October 22 2011 22:37 GMT
#61
Haha, the joys of radical changes

Easily balanced though, just make Arc Shield require Cybernetics Core or Gateway and it's probably fixed.
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
October 22 2011 22:39 GMT
#62
Proxy gating will become brutal...
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:40:28
October 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#63
Im quite sure Arc Shield Requires a gateway to be cast already.

Giving it a range is the best solution, making it require a core nullifies the idea of it being a early pool defence.

Would stop proxxy gates being cannons as well.
Subztance
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:40:59
October 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#64
On October 23 2011 07:32 Qbek wrote:
Just add casting range for arc shield of , say, half the map lenght, no more cheese with it


Different maps would have different ranges then... also the problem with that is that in some 3v3 or 4v4 maps you might still be in range. I think the best solution is for it not to work on assimilators or pylons. To prevent early rushes all you really need it for is your gateway/forge/nexus and maybe cybernetics
yuri taeyeon
JuuMeijin
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden164 Posts
October 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#65
8-D
y_y
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#66
Well I thought they changed it to require a gateway? If not then you could probably just add a range of 30 to the arcshield buff. Long enough to cover a whole base, short enough to not be able to offensively utilize it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 22 2011 22:42 GMT
#67
something doesnt fit here. you need a gateway to use it i think. additionally someone using it before said it took 4 scvs to kill it and the thing only got 1 of the scvs to 5 health
NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
October 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#68
I guess this means the arc shield ability is going to go bye bye... or needs like 100 min research or something
"He accidentally attacked his own nexus with a probe. Then half way through the game, poof! No more nexus. That's gotta suck!"
Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
October 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#69
So, BEFORE HotS come out, Blizzard will have to cripple Protoss yet again because PvP is the most stupid matchup? Sounds about right. Oh, Tassadar, WHY?!
"I have never tasted Death, Zeratul. Nor shall I". Liquid'HerO FIGHTING!
PimpWilly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States228 Posts
October 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#70
On October 23 2011 07:37 Dauntless wrote:
Haha, the joys of radical changes

Easily balanced though, just make Arc Shield require Cybernetics Core or Gateway and it's probably fixed.


It already requires a gateway
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
October 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#71
Funny story. I could see them restricting the use of it on pylons and assimilators.
GET SM4SHED
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
October 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#72
Problem is that to use the macro mechanics, terran has to depot->rax->OC, the zerg has to pool->queen, wheras protoss has theirs right off the bat, or 25/50 energy later if you want to get literal.

Just add the Nexus spells to require gate/core and this stuff - except chrono - will be easily fixed.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
October 22 2011 22:57 GMT
#73
Bearing in mind that will probably remove the offensive potential of this ability... how often do you expect to have 50 energy available to use it on defense? It's kind of odd that they cut directly into the Protoss macro mechanic with this ability.
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
October 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#74
Helps with roach/ling all-in's most likely.
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
Gamma4
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia75 Posts
October 22 2011 22:59 GMT
#75
They should make arc shields not only attack light units but also other arc shields that way you could put one on your nexus early pvp if u know they are doing this and also place your first few pylons near your mins i think this would make the game interesting early for pvp.
Just Huking around ;)
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#76
Woaw, great find. This sounds so good and the expansion isnt even up yet
Life's good :D
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#77
Haha thats hilarious
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Twilight_Archon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
October 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#78
That is pretty hilarious.
(My Life For) A-R-T-O-S-I-S! Artosis Theme Song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEZzcTiMFg&feature=BFa&list=PL040D08FF9148E2CA&lf=bf_play
MeatSnack
Profile Joined March 2011
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 23:08:16
October 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#79
I think they took the Arc Shield in the wrong direction. It was meant to be a deterrent to early-game cheese from light units, right? Instead of having your buildings shoot at ground forces, how about having Arc Shield make pylons cast a force field around themselves at the same radius at the Pylon energy? Units inside get +2 armor like with Guardian Shield, and only the casting player's units can move in and out of the AoE. Nexus energy does not recharge while the ability is in effect.

Now, you can easily block the 6/7-pools, protect your units from super-aggressive Marine pressure, but these acts of aggression still provoke a player to burn his Nexus energy. It protects Protoss from getting cheesed as heavily as they do without even making them as invincible as a walled-off Terran is from stuff like a 6-pool.

[edit]

Also give the ability a maximum casting range so that you can't go throw a pylon down in their mineral line and block off all mining :p. Even though that wouldn't hurt as bad as a cannon rush...
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
October 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#80
That was a funny article! I'm pretty sure Blizzard is going to have to fix this. It's a quite ridiculous ability the Nexus gets, honestly.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 367
RotterdaM 233
Trikslyr28
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 28823
BeSt 4984
Mini 2171
Pusan 1060
Stork 615
Zeus 389
EffOrt 343
PianO 319
Last 235
ToSsGirL 138
[ Show more ]
Barracks 127
JulyZerg 70
zelot 60
Rush 43
Aegong 37
Sharp 32
Sacsri 32
sSak 19
GoRush 13
SilentControl 13
scan(afreeca) 13
IntoTheRainbow 12
Noble 8
Bale 8
Hm[arnc] 7
Dota 2
Gorgc7200
singsing2553
qojqva1236
XcaliburYe256
Counter-Strike
x6flipin560
sgares379
oskar248
flusha147
markeloff67
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King150
Other Games
gofns7239
B2W.Neo1481
hiko461
DeMusliM367
Hui .300
Pyrionflax130
ArmadaUGS42
QueenE15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3367
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos825
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 59m
Replay Cast
10h 59m
The PondCast
20h 59m
OSC
23h 59m
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Epic.LAN
1d 22h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
CSO Contender
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
5 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.