• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:37
CET 15:37
KST 23:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1322 users

Arc Shield PvP Rush - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:37:39
October 22 2011 22:37 GMT
#61
Haha, the joys of radical changes

Easily balanced though, just make Arc Shield require Cybernetics Core or Gateway and it's probably fixed.
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
October 22 2011 22:39 GMT
#62
Proxy gating will become brutal...
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:40:28
October 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#63
Im quite sure Arc Shield Requires a gateway to be cast already.

Giving it a range is the best solution, making it require a core nullifies the idea of it being a early pool defence.

Would stop proxxy gates being cannons as well.
Subztance
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:40:59
October 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#64
On October 23 2011 07:32 Qbek wrote:
Just add casting range for arc shield of , say, half the map lenght, no more cheese with it


Different maps would have different ranges then... also the problem with that is that in some 3v3 or 4v4 maps you might still be in range. I think the best solution is for it not to work on assimilators or pylons. To prevent early rushes all you really need it for is your gateway/forge/nexus and maybe cybernetics
yuri taeyeon
JuuMeijin
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden164 Posts
October 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#65
8-D
y_y
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#66
Well I thought they changed it to require a gateway? If not then you could probably just add a range of 30 to the arcshield buff. Long enough to cover a whole base, short enough to not be able to offensively utilize it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 22 2011 22:42 GMT
#67
something doesnt fit here. you need a gateway to use it i think. additionally someone using it before said it took 4 scvs to kill it and the thing only got 1 of the scvs to 5 health
NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
October 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#68
I guess this means the arc shield ability is going to go bye bye... or needs like 100 min research or something
"He accidentally attacked his own nexus with a probe. Then half way through the game, poof! No more nexus. That's gotta suck!"
Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
October 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#69
So, BEFORE HotS come out, Blizzard will have to cripple Protoss yet again because PvP is the most stupid matchup? Sounds about right. Oh, Tassadar, WHY?!
"I have never tasted Death, Zeratul. Nor shall I". Liquid'HerO FIGHTING!
PimpWilly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States228 Posts
October 22 2011 22:48 GMT
#70
On October 23 2011 07:37 Dauntless wrote:
Haha, the joys of radical changes

Easily balanced though, just make Arc Shield require Cybernetics Core or Gateway and it's probably fixed.


It already requires a gateway
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
October 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#71
Funny story. I could see them restricting the use of it on pylons and assimilators.
GET SM4SHED
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
October 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#72
Problem is that to use the macro mechanics, terran has to depot->rax->OC, the zerg has to pool->queen, wheras protoss has theirs right off the bat, or 25/50 energy later if you want to get literal.

Just add the Nexus spells to require gate/core and this stuff - except chrono - will be easily fixed.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
October 22 2011 22:57 GMT
#73
Bearing in mind that will probably remove the offensive potential of this ability... how often do you expect to have 50 energy available to use it on defense? It's kind of odd that they cut directly into the Protoss macro mechanic with this ability.
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
October 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#74
Helps with roach/ling all-in's most likely.
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
Gamma4
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia75 Posts
October 22 2011 22:59 GMT
#75
They should make arc shields not only attack light units but also other arc shields that way you could put one on your nexus early pvp if u know they are doing this and also place your first few pylons near your mins i think this would make the game interesting early for pvp.
Just Huking around ;)
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#76
Woaw, great find. This sounds so good and the expansion isnt even up yet
Life's good :D
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#77
Haha thats hilarious
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Twilight_Archon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
October 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#78
That is pretty hilarious.
(My Life For) A-R-T-O-S-I-S! Artosis Theme Song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEZzcTiMFg&feature=BFa&list=PL040D08FF9148E2CA&lf=bf_play
MeatSnack
Profile Joined March 2011
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 23:08:16
October 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#79
I think they took the Arc Shield in the wrong direction. It was meant to be a deterrent to early-game cheese from light units, right? Instead of having your buildings shoot at ground forces, how about having Arc Shield make pylons cast a force field around themselves at the same radius at the Pylon energy? Units inside get +2 armor like with Guardian Shield, and only the casting player's units can move in and out of the AoE. Nexus energy does not recharge while the ability is in effect.

Now, you can easily block the 6/7-pools, protect your units from super-aggressive Marine pressure, but these acts of aggression still provoke a player to burn his Nexus energy. It protects Protoss from getting cheesed as heavily as they do without even making them as invincible as a walled-off Terran is from stuff like a 6-pool.

[edit]

Also give the ability a maximum casting range so that you can't go throw a pylon down in their mineral line and block off all mining :p. Even though that wouldn't hurt as bad as a cannon rush...
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
October 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#80
That was a funny article! I'm pretty sure Blizzard is going to have to fix this. It's a quite ridiculous ability the Nexus gets, honestly.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#67
WardiTV1609
IndyStarCraft 224
Rex162
IntoTheiNu 14
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko395
IndyStarCraft 224
Rex 162
SKillous 87
DivinesiaTV 9
RushiSC 4
SC2Nice 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1945
Soma 794
Larva 743
Stork 702
Mini 681
Hyuk 606
ZerO 362
Snow 265
Sharp 232
Rush 182
[ Show more ]
Aegong 175
BeSt 156
Hyun 102
sorry 89
EffOrt 78
Barracks 67
Shuttle 63
910 61
Pusan 60
JYJ 54
ToSsGirL 48
NotJumperer 44
soO 39
HiyA 35
Mind 32
Sexy 23
zelot 19
Shine 17
Terrorterran 16
Movie 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Bale 7
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva1944
Dendi742
420jenkins349
syndereN222
XcaliburYe214
BananaSlamJamma206
febbydoto31
League of Legends
C9.Mang0434
Counter-Strike
allub233
Other Games
Grubby3130
B2W.Neo1904
singsing1519
hiko584
Hui .358
Fuzer 342
QueenE92
Mew2King74
ArmadaUGS69
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick724
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc234
• Adnapsc2 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen49
• lizZardDota245
League of Legends
• Jankos2443
Other Games
• WagamamaTV295
Upcoming Events
OSC
21h 23m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.