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On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately)
If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are.
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Wow, this should be as good for EG as staying with oGs ever was for Liquid. Remember Jinro making the final 4 at GSL... twice? And HuK made it pretty far too. Awesome news! Hopefully we will get more information out of SlayerS as a result of this.
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On October 20 2011 12:21 woobsauce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately) If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are.
Yeah, thoes 3 are really underrated and all really good. Also Puzzle is probably better than HuK, and Coca is probably better than Idra, and every A-team terran on Slayers is probably better than Puma and Demuslim. That said, the skill gap isn't huge, esp. in the case of Huk and Puzzle (I'd argue from what we've seen they are equal pvt pvz and Puzzle has edge pvp), and in the case of Coca's ZvT and Idra's ZvT, so it's not like Slayers is doing this out of charity.
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Ganzi mentioned in interview that their sponsor will expire(intel or razer). i think they will merge.
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Are they maybe renting the house/apartment right next to SlayerS then doing an Alliance? It'd make a little more sense, given sponsor issues, but would give both teams a lot of cross over. Give SlayerS a little more space, give the non-Koreans a regime of training partners and allow a huge amount of cross pollination.
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On October 20 2011 12:28 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:21 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately) If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are. Yeah, thoes 3 are really underrated and all really good. Also Puzzle is probably better than HuK, and Coca is probably better than Idra, and every A-team terran on Slayers is probably better than Puma and Demuslim. That said, the skill gap isn't huge, esp. in the case of Huk and Puzzle (I'd argue from what we've seen they are equal pvt pvz and Puzzle has edge pvp), and in the case of Coca's ZvT and Idra's ZvT, so it's not like Slayers is doing this out of charity.
In terms of Huk and Idras play and work ethic-Huk remains a code S player, and clearly brings a lot to the table. He has shown that he can take on and win against pretty-much any player out there. He may not be the best in the Korea but his record shows he is a consistent code S player-He has RO8 and RO16 trips and never has dropped to code A. When IdrA was in Korea he was considered a threat to outright win the GSL, and his ZvT at MLG was impeccable. Even his ZvP was decent, beating Hongun, a perpetually under-rated, former code S player, who has place third twice, and current code A player. He lost vs MC but seemed to be suffering from fatigue and emotional issues-he has rarely done well vs MC.
I mean look at their recent performances at MLG-
Huk:
-Beat code S players: MKP, MC, July
-Beat Code B player: TheSTC
-Lost to Code A player: Hero(in a close matchup)
IdrA:
-Beat code S player: Bomber
-Beat code A player: Hongun
-Beat code B player: BoxeR
-Lost to: Code S MKP and code S MC, both 1-2.
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On October 20 2011 12:28 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:21 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately) If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are. Yeah, thoes 3 are really underrated and all really good. Also Puzzle is probably better than HuK, and Coca is probably better than Idra, and every A-team terran on Slayers is probably better than Puma and Demuslim. That said, the skill gap isn't huge, esp. in the case of Huk and Puzzle (I'd argue from what we've seen they are equal pvt pvz and Puzzle has edge pvp), and in the case of Coca's ZvT and Idra's ZvT, so it's not like Slayers is doing this out of charity.
I can't understand why they are so underrated, especially based on their recent success. They've always been pretty awesome players since their debut (back in march), but haven't been followed very much, or (for reasons beyond my understanding) have been overlooked/ignored by a lot of TL. The SlayerS A-team players are pretty terrifyingly good. That being said, I do agree the skill gap isn't -huge-, but the gap cannot be ignored - as well as the benefit differential. Having one player join and train with them (eg. when they had Thorzain in their house) isnt huge, but having an entire team merging into the organization would be a drastic change that might be more than they might be comfortable with.
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Heres the story as i see it:
Quantic Gaming and Startale are going to have some kinda collaboration in my opinion. Their video referenced EG, and imo it did so that we would we see the Startale Red Herrings that EG was using. The Startale info wasn't meant for EG, but for Quantic.
As has been leaked. We can Assume that EG and Slayers have some kinda collaboration as well as planned, or something to do with Slayers (pickup, merge, house, w/e the reason, it seems obvious slayers is here for something). Info we will find out: New KR House. The representative. Possibly 1 pickup (they said they had 1 more left while back), some kinda of business operation with Slayers.
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On October 20 2011 12:29 vertical101 wrote:
Ganzi mentioned in interview that their sponsor will expire(intel or razer). i think they will merge.
Would be awkward since Razer's competitor Steelseries is heavily invested in EG, but Intel is also one a EG's main sponsors and Slayers, I could use a partnership like oGs-TL for sure, not a full merge though.
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On October 20 2011 12:39 InvalidID wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:28 Oreo7 wrote:On October 20 2011 12:21 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately) If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are. Yeah, thoes 3 are really underrated and all really good. Also Puzzle is probably better than HuK, and Coca is probably better than Idra, and every A-team terran on Slayers is probably better than Puma and Demuslim. That said, the skill gap isn't huge, esp. in the case of Huk and Puzzle (I'd argue from what we've seen they are equal pvt pvz and Puzzle has edge pvp), and in the case of Coca's ZvT and Idra's ZvT, so it's not like Slayers is doing this out of charity. In terms of Huk and Idras play and work ethic-Huk remains a code S player, and clearly brings a lot to the table. He has shown that he can take on and win against pretty-much any player out there. He may not be the best in the Korea but his record shows he is a consistent code S player-He has RO8 and RO16 trips and never has dropped to code A. When IdrA was in Korea he was considered a threat to outright win the GSL, and his ZvT at MLG was impeccable. Even his ZvP was decent, beating Hongun, a perpetually under-rated, former code S player, and current code A player. He lost vs MC but seemed to be suffering from fatigue and emotional issues-he has rarely done well vs MC.
^agreed.
To be honest though I am not an idra fan, I dont usually love his play. But his ZvT has really impressed me lately so good for him. I respect pretty much all the slayers members right now and I think idra is as good as cocoa, I don't think he is better until he proves it. HuK on the other hand seems to be near the top of the world when it comes to Protoss. Not that Puzzle is a push over in anyway, but puzzle seems inconsistent compared to HuK, I don't see how people could say that puzzle is better than HuK as a player. Puzzle still has yet to prove his mettle in any large tournament aside code a. Which of course is not close to code S.
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Why do people have such an uproar over them hyping up an announcement.. if you don't like it ignore it.
As For the rest of us we'll enjoy the cryptic mystery riddle part of the disclosure.
All in good fun Folks 
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Thats awesome that EG are joining slayers to train, but i really hope EG go into the GSTL. I would actually watch GSL if they were to do that
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How can Razer's premier SC2 team form such a close partnership with Steelseries' premier SC2 team is my question
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On October 20 2011 12:41 woobsauce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:28 Oreo7 wrote:On October 20 2011 12:21 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 12:14 Loki57 wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p This summarizes my thoughts pretty well, I'm not too sure how this could be a bad partnership for either side. It's not like the entire slayers line-up is head-and-shoulders above HuK/IdrA/PuMa (I would bet that the only terran that could consistently beat IdrA would be MMA and that's a maybe after seeing his games lately) If you really believe that you should see GanZi, Ryung, and TaeJa play. It would melt your brain to see just how insanely talented these players are. Yeah, thoes 3 are really underrated and all really good. Also Puzzle is probably better than HuK, and Coca is probably better than Idra, and every A-team terran on Slayers is probably better than Puma and Demuslim. That said, the skill gap isn't huge, esp. in the case of Huk and Puzzle (I'd argue from what we've seen they are equal pvt pvz and Puzzle has edge pvp), and in the case of Coca's ZvT and Idra's ZvT, so it's not like Slayers is doing this out of charity. I can't understand why they are so underrated, especially based on their recent success. They've always been pretty awesome players since their debut (back in march), but haven't been followed very much, or (for reasons beyond my understanding) have been overlooked/ignored by a lot of TL. The SlayerS A-team players are pretty terrifyingly good. That being said, I do agree the skill gap isn't -huge-, but the gap cannot be ignored - as well as the benefit differential. Having one player join and train with them (eg. when they had Thorzain in their house) isnt huge, but having an entire team merging into the organization would be a drastic change that might be more than they might be comfortable with.
MMA kind of steals the spot light from them, and yeah, awesome times to be a slayers fan - some of the best in the world. THE best terrans, (MMA, Ganzi, Ryung, Taeja), one of the best zergs, probably the best zvp (Coca) and some of the best protoss (puzzle, Alicia). Such a ballin' line up!
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On October 20 2011 13:01 t3tsubo wrote:
How can Razer's premier SC2 team form such a close partnership with Steelseries' premier SC2 team is my question
I believe that both SlayerS and EGs primary sponsors are Intel. I assume one will switch to Steelseries or Razer.
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On October 20 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 13:01 t3tsubo wrote:
How can Razer's premier SC2 team form such a close partnership with Steelseries' premier SC2 team is my question I believe that both SlayerS and EGs primary sponsors are Intel. I assume one will switch to Steelseries or Razer.
It's seeming like it'll be SlayerS switching to SteelSeries given the information about their contract with Razer is ending.
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On October 20 2011 12:20 woobsauce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p Its not so much that I'm hoping for bad news, in fact I'm hoping for the opposite. I'm being rather cynical because I wouldn't want to see any damage done to the current think tank that is SlayerS. Though, nothing ventured nothing gained, etc. As for the "caliber of player" I'd want to see as training partners, I believe the people SlayerS thanks in interviews will answer that. Ex: when MMA trains - he trains TvT vs Ryung, Byun, GanZi, etc. There is not a single player in EG capable of filling those shoes. I'm sure the foreigners will work hard, but whether their efforts will have the same benefit to SlayerS remains to be seen. I simply hope (if this becomes official) that this all ends up being a mutually beneficial experience for both teams, and that the foreigners carry themselves in a way that reflects well on foreign players/organizations.
Noone capable of filling those shoes? You mean like how coca got demolished by bomber, and Idra took out bomber? Or how puma has won NASL over players like MC and sen? Or how huk just kinda owned MC theSTC and a bunch of others?
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So... that leaves which teams without a foreign life partner?
Startale-> QxG?
Slayers-> EG
Ogs-> Liquid
MVP-> Complexity
Prime-> We
Zenex ->???
Fou->FXO
IM->???
TSL->???
NsHoSeo->???
Edit:Added TSL and NsHoSeo, also wrote MVP instead of IM
Am I missing another team? I know there is another Korean team, but it has no players in the GSL.
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On October 20 2011 13:17 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 12:20 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:53 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:33 woobsauce wrote:On October 20 2011 11:22 Angelbelow wrote:On October 20 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote:
I sincerely hope that the players from EG and SlayerS can get along respectfully, and that this partnership benefits both teams equally.
Will the teams train together, or will the two teams merely live in the same spot? Will people like Cella coach players from EG? Will the players have similar training regiments/cooperative practice?
I hope that this deal isn't out of financial desperation, as I seem to recall SlayerS mentioning that sponsorship contracts are expiring, and that they hope to have a good show this season to retain such contracts. If so, I hope that the addition of the EG roster to the clan house isn't terribly abrasive. Even if it is out of financial desperation its a deal that benefits both teams. Training with players like Huk and IdrA are great, but not to mention PUMA! Another strong terran for the Slayers terrans to practice with. Obviously IdrA and Huk would benefit greatly as well. Hm, I think its pretty clear that Idra, Huk, and Puma have a -lot- more to benefit from this in terms of training based on the track records of both teams. More so than the enormous benefit differential for both teams, I hope that practicing with SlayerS doesn't dilute the training of the SlayerS players. Think about it this way, if Slayers wanted to add more training partners... what caliber of players would be ideal? I wont deny that Idra, Huk and Puma have a lot to gain, but they also happen to be some of the best players in the world. Statistically Huk would be the best protoss player on slayers, Idra would be arguably the best zerg next to Coca. As far as diluting Slayers training... Huk is known to have great work ethic as does IdrA (when hes motivated, which he is now.) Stop hoping for the worse. Slayers isnt managed by a team of monkeys, they are extremely well managed and it shows in their passion and results. They aren't going to team up with EG if they didnt believe they were going to benefit as well. Btw, nothing is official, so this may not even happen =p Its not so much that I'm hoping for bad news, in fact I'm hoping for the opposite. I'm being rather cynical because I wouldn't want to see any damage done to the current think tank that is SlayerS. Though, nothing ventured nothing gained, etc. As for the "caliber of player" I'd want to see as training partners, I believe the people SlayerS thanks in interviews will answer that. Ex: when MMA trains - he trains TvT vs Ryung, Byun, GanZi, etc. There is not a single player in EG capable of filling those shoes. I'm sure the foreigners will work hard, but whether their efforts will have the same benefit to SlayerS remains to be seen. I simply hope (if this becomes official) that this all ends up being a mutually beneficial experience for both teams, and that the foreigners carry themselves in a way that reflects well on foreign players/organizations. Noone capable of filling those shoes? You mean like how coca got demolished by bomber, and Idra took out bomber? Or how puma has won NASL over players like MC and sen? Or how huk just kinda owned MC theSTC and a bunch of others?
The examples you provided do not exist in isolation. I think its important to look at their track records, instead of isolated instances of success. The level of consistency in success and innovation of the metagame between SlayerS and EG cannot be compared. My skepticism is not to be critical of EG, merely skeptical.
Though, if you want me to be critical, I will be happy to oblige.
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