EPTBut if you want purely "fun" games, then I think custom games are the way to go as opposed to an unranked ladder.
Multiple 1v1 ranks and the future of the ladder - Page 16
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Nyle
Canada3 Posts
But if you want purely "fun" games, then I think custom games are the way to go as opposed to an unranked ladder. | ||
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Zabedisi
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On October 14 2011 01:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: How the hell is this even relevant? If there was a ladder ranking for each race, then each 1v1 ladder would go up and down as you played on each of your Protoss, Zerg, Terran, and Random 1v1 ladders. What the current set-up is doing is forcing us to stick with our current race, because we've already invested a lot of time and effort into getting to our current league as one race, and it would be silly to fall all the way back down on the same ladder just to re-learn a new race. If I'm master league Protoss and have never played a 1v1 game as Terran or Zerg, how do I start? How do I learn? Do I throw a hundred straight games to get knocked down to silver? And then what happens if I want to play as Protoss again? Saying "man the fuck up" isn't an argument. It's just you sounding like you didn't even read the OP. I read the OP. It talked about stress being the reason for needing a "just for fun" ladder account. Nothing to do with different races. If you need to have a "just for fun" account so you're not stressed because of "ladder anxiety" then you need to get over yourself. Wanting different rankings for different races is obviously very different and, I think, entirely reasonable. I guess I should have been clearer that I wasn't directing my post at people who want that, though I thought it was obvious given the content. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On October 14 2011 04:06 Shiladie wrote: I agree completely with this! A league that tracks MMR but nothing else, and lets you choose what matchup you play. Also don't include the wins in achievements and such (to prevent people from just playing tonnes of games on it) it would then let you practice that matchup you're having problems with, or play when drunk/high/tired without risking tanking your normal 1v1 rating. possibly track each matchup differently in MMR for this league, so you're always playing somebody else exactly your skill level in each matchup, which is the best environment to improve in. The problem i see with this is that then people will play the ladder less. It's in blizzards best interest to keep the ladder alive and competitive. If you allow people to play vs other similar MMR opponents then the ladder becomes less competitive. | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
Honestly I think it's a joke how absolutely restrictive Bnet 2.0 is, can't ladder with different MMRs, can't change names, can't reasonably host new custom games, can't watch replays with other people. Hurray for Blizzard. | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
1. Does blizzard have the server room for it? 2. Is it worth the trouble of implementing something of this nature? 3. Would you want to extend this into 2s/3s/4s? 4. Would be able to get Grand Master with multiple races? 5. Would be able to get into the same division with multiple races? Now some interesting points: 1. It would 100% surely promote more off-racing and laddering. 2. You could claim yourself as a Master of all races. 3. It would be a better determination of one's skill (Oh, he's Master's with Zerg but only Bronze with protoss? no wonder we lost that 3v3). Interesting idea, but there's many open ends (hence why it hasn't been done yet) | ||
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Cajun2k1
Netherlands399 Posts
On October 14 2011 04:10 Zabedisi wrote: Blizzard would lose revenue from people who buy smurf accounts. /thread I really wonder if the percentage of people who buy smurf-accounts exceeds 1% or is so large that Blizz would feel something if people would stop buying multiple accounts. | ||
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how2TL
1197 Posts
Same system, more ladder entries. How hard is that? Assuming half the ladder population from Season 1 is already gone, there's plenty of room. There's no need for extension or server room or whatever bullshit you're making up. | ||
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On October 14 2011 05:22 Keitzer wrote: Questions: 1. Does blizzard have the server room for it? 2. Is it worth the trouble of implementing something of this nature? 3. Would you want to extend this into 2s/3s/4s? 4. Would be able to get Grand Master with multiple races? 5. Would be able to get into the same division with multiple races? Now some interesting points: 1. It would 100% surely promote more off-racing and laddering. 2. You could claim yourself as a Master of all races. 3. It would be a better determination of one's skill (Oh, he's Master's with Zerg but only Bronze with protoss? no wonder we lost that 3v3). Interesting idea, but there's many open ends (hence why it hasn't been done yet) 1. Definitely. 2. If enough people want it. 3. It already is, in a way. Because you can have multiple teams. I wouldn't extend it beyond that. 4. Of course. If anyone manages to do so and actually manages to stay in GM with the bonus pool requirements, etc, it is an achievement in itself. 5. Probably yes, but what are the chances of that happening? There isn't really a downside to this. | ||
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Mr42
Slovakia18 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3500 Posts
Every matchup should have it's own MMR. If my PvP is 10% better than my PvZ, then why shouldn't i meet better Protoss players, than Zerg players. And same for if i played other races ofcourse. If this was the case, i wouldn't really care about league&ranking. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On October 14 2011 04:10 Zabedisi wrote: Blizzard would lose revenue from people who buy smurf accounts. /thread I don't own shares in Blizzard, so I don't give a damn. | ||
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F4ble
Norway73 Posts
And why on earth would I like several rankings? Deal with it. Play customs/2v2+ if you don't want the stress. You want a cozy RTS? Play Age of Empires. The thing I like the most about SC2 is that the chances of making it to the top are slim to none for most of us and it requires a shitload of work. As it should be for a competitive game. There are plenty of casual games out there if you don't like it. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 14 2011 05:53 F4ble wrote: After having bought maybe plenty of EA games over the years I can honestly say that I don't have a single problem with Blizzard. I can understand some people having well founded issues with some of the things Blizzard does, but wth.. you can't please everyone. And why on earth would I like several rankings? Deal with it. Play customs/2v2+ if you don't want the stress. You want a cozy RTS? Play Age of Empires. The thing I like the most about SC2 is that the chances of making it to the top are slim to none for most of us and it requires a shitload of work. As it should be for a competitive game. There are plenty of casual games out there if you don't like it. What did anything you said have to do with...well...anything? | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On October 14 2011 05:56 Tyrant0 wrote: What did anything you said have to do with...well...anything? It sounded like an abstract of an essay written to persuade people to not have fun while playing Starcraft 2. | ||
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SwitchAUS
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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jinixxx123
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