EPTMultiple 1v1 ranks and the future of the ladder - Page 17
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MoreSore
Ireland73 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:09 jinixxx123 wrote: i disagree with multiple accounts, just have something like unranked matchmaking using your MMR to find opponents is sufficient enough for offracing/practicing/warming up for me. Having anymore than 1 account is only prone to one thing, Abuse!!! .. , which is smurfing /backstabbing and just ruining any integrity of the ladder system . How would a bronze league player feel when every 2 games he is facing a smurfing troll that is taking pride on beating up newbs "for fun" cause we all thats what "for fun" means............... The very existence of SC2 is prone to be abused. You speak of a <0.01% population that ruins the game and ultimately costs everyone more money when blizzard designs around these people. Who wins? They do. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:19 Tyrant0 wrote: The very existence of SC2 is prone to be abused. You speak of a <0.01% population that ruins the game and ultimately costs everyone more money when blizzard designs around these people. Who wins? They do. The very start of this argument is flawed as well. How does this stuff encourage smurfing more than the current system? I hope people understand that your 'off-race' ranking would find your' true MMR unless you intentionally lose games on it which is EXACTLY what you can do now. If you want more proof: do you see smurfing everywhere in team leagues? | ||
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kahaleo
7 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:22 willoc wrote: The very start of this argument is flawed as well. How does this stuff encourage smurfing more than the current system? I hope people understand that your 'off-race' ranking would find your' true MMR unless you intentionally lose games on it which is EXACTLY what you can do now. If you want more proof: do you see smurfing everywhere in team leagues? I never said it encouraged it. I don't even know what you're arguing for. | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:30 kahaleo wrote: So what if someone in GM had a really good off-race? Two spots with the same name in GM? Easy solution would be to just rank the highest one in GM only. They could display that his offrace is of GM level and what place it WOULD be placed in without taking an actual slot. | ||
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Cajun2k1
Netherlands399 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:03 Grobyc wrote: 4 different ladders, but only your highest ranked of the 4 is actually published and given a real ranking + division. The other 3 still maintain their separate MMR, but don't generate rankings. So basically you can practice with your 'offrace' against opponents with similar skill-level, maintaining the MMR, but not an actual ladder-version. Works for me. Great idea. | ||
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
People do buy off-race accounts. | ||
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kawaiiryuko
United States368 Posts
So, let's say your MMR is at 100. You are in gold league. You play on a "unranked" ladder, presumably because your wins/losses won't affect your "ranked" points, but it will affect your MMR, right? Because if it doesn't affect your MMR, you are still playing vs. MMR 100 opponents. And if it does affect your MMR, even if you have 1000 gold ladder points, you'll end up playing vs. bronzies because your MMR has dropped from the "unranked" ladder? Does this just mean that you should have separate MMR/ladders for each race? Does that make the most sense? I don't understand why people are advocating an "unranked" ladder - how do you make sure that you match up against people of equal skill without keeping separate race MMRs? (Maybe you don't need a random MMR - it can just be an aggregate of your 3 race MMRs). EDIT: I just wanted to add that I have a NA and a TW account. So, I play random on my TW account, which means when I end up with my main NA race, I win pretty easily, but otherwise, I get "even" matches with my other two races. I wish it wasn't so, but such as it is. Also, I just realized that they've had built-in region swapping as of patch 1.1 for the SEA client.  Why wouldn't they just give me this functionality for everyone??? | ||
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Flying_Cake
Canada117 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:55 Trusty wrote: Blizzard makes money from not allowing this. People do buy off-race accounts. Exactly, while it's a nice idea Blizzard got to make a profit out of everything. I don't know when but they were even talking about premium maps that you can buy or so I've heard. So while it's nice it's not really expected to happen(without a price). | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:51 Tyrant0 wrote: I never said it encouraged it. I don't even know what you're arguing for. Not arguing with you. I made additional points to your argument. I was stating that the whole "this will encourage more smurfing" was a flawed argument in the first place. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:52 stevarius wrote: Easy solution would be to just rank the highest one in GM only. They could display that his offrace is of GM level and what place it WOULD be placed in without taking an actual slot. Right now your name and your race are shown in the GM league. Don't see the problem with the same name with multiple races showing up. They would still all be distinguished from one another by race. | ||
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Aelip
Denmark321 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:30 kahaleo wrote: So what if someone in GM had a really good off-race? Two spots with the same name in GM? Like rank is that important, if you can't beat a guy on his offrace, you don't deserve to be GM. Simple as that. | ||
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sensenmann
United States172 Posts
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On October 14 2011 06:30 kahaleo wrote: So what if someone in GM had a really good off-race? Two spots with the same name in GM? thats fine each spot would be for a different race ... kudos to them ... its a whole new measure of epeen. anyway i suspect that a lot fo gm players are goign to be high diamond / masters with other races if they wanted to be just because their game knowledge of each race is that high in the first place look at destiny - who i really enjoy watching, and im sure is a top player but not top of the top - he was kicking ass with protoss. I have race switched ... thankfully i am top of gold so not that good. But when i switch i am defo bronze for a bit  People who think it will ruin ladder havent though tit through. 60% of each ladder is inactive ... there would just be more divisions. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 14 2011 07:14 sensenmann wrote: Am I the only one lucky enough to have friends who bought SC2, but don't play much anymore? I realize it isn't a very good solution, but if you haven't tried yet, ask around. See if a friend will let you ladder on his or her account. Yep, pretty much the best way to smurf. Semi-depressing too, though. Majority of my friends quit/don't play often at all. | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
Rating(s): ACB: M BBFC: 15[6] ESRB: T GRB: 12+ (censored) 18+ (uncensored)[7] PEGI: 16+ USK: 12 You would guess that 16+ years old would be more mature than "being stressed for playing a game". When you´ve played BW on WGTour and iCCup for 8+ years, talk about stress. | ||
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
It seems to be a situation where blizzard would let us have our cake and eat it too. | ||
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