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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
October 13 2011 22:48 GMT
#341
people have afear of playing

be it fear of loss or fear of winning.

both well documented in all kinds of games.

multi divisions multiplies player base by 4 potentially
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 22:51:10
October 13 2011 22:50 GMT
#342
I'd love an account for each race just so I could actually offrace and not just get slaughtered for 30 games in a row as Terran and basically be unable to play Zerg again until my effective skill for both Terran and Zerg were on teh same page.

As for multiple accounts as a way to supress ladder fear; I'm never a proponent of protecting people from themselves, and I firmly believe that in all cases where you do such a thing, the person you're hoping to protect ends up more hurt than they would be otherwise. Fear alone should never be a legitimate reason to not do something.

Take, for example, someone who has discovered they like swimming, but is afraid of water. Do you start looking for pools without water that they can pretend to swim in, or do you help them / tell them to get over their fear of water so they can do what they enjoy?
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
October 13 2011 23:27 GMT
#343
there are too few players laddering as is, I don't want longer queue times and recurring opponents because of multiple 1v1 options.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:40:06
October 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#344
On October 14 2011 08:27 TheRhox wrote:
there are too few players laddering as is, I don't want longer queue times and recurring opponents because of multiple 1v1 options.


The changes would affect neither of your concerns. If anything, they would SHORTEN queue times and have LESS recurring opponents due to more people playing.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
October 13 2011 23:46 GMT
#345
awful idea, it would inflate the ladder, if you want an account to mess around on so bad buy a smurf
Those Bitches
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
October 14 2011 01:05 GMT
#346
Nooo... we REALLY don't need this. -_-
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 01:32:41
October 14 2011 01:32 GMT
#347
I mean it just seems like an extremely niche amount of people who would use.

Like in order for it to matter you probably should be above gold so 60% of the population wouldn't care too much (they would just offrace and take the losses). Of the remaining 40%, they would have to actually give a shit about offracing AND wouldn't be willing to pony up the dough for another account. Plus, that doesn't include the people that are perfectly willing to simply practice with team/custom games until they get used the mechanics.

I mean, from blizzard's perspective, is it worth it?
Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
October 14 2011 01:44 GMT
#348
If people were allowed to have multiple smurf accounts, we'd just end up with something looking like this.
NightHawk929
Profile Joined December 2010
79 Posts
October 14 2011 02:40 GMT
#349
4, or even unlimited, there's no reason that we should only have 1 rank. I remember day9 talking about how in brood war he would ladder until he hit a wall then he would make a new account and try some new stuff vs lower leagues.
syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
October 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#350
This is only a problem for those who think 1v1 ranking is "serious" when in fact rank should mean absolutely nothing at all to you. Who's looking at your rank and judging you, really? Nobody.

So who cares what rank you are. If you switch races and suck for a little while you'll start playing opponents who match your level with that race and then as you get better with the mechanics you already have you'll rank back up to where you were. Stop caring so much what other people think and enjoy the game and meeting new challenges, please.
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
October 14 2011 02:56 GMT
#351
I like this idea. I tend to also play team games for fun, and 1v1 competitively. However, once I attained better ranks in team games, they also became less fun and more competitive! My approach to getting around that has been to switch races in team games. Now I play Zerg in 1v1 and 2v2, my next best race, Terran, in 3v3, and my worst race, Protoss, in 4v4. It's turning out to be a lot of fun, and means I can experiment more. I think if the same could be done across the board (i.e., different ranks for different races in 1v1), it would be a great solution to the fear vs. fun issue.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
October 14 2011 02:57 GMT
#352
On October 14 2011 10:05 Toppp wrote:
Nooo... we REALLY don't need this. -_-


don't worry .... it will never happen anyway
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#353
What about letting you register as many nicknames as you want? God damn it... just bring the 90s back
Common Sense - so rare that it's a super power
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
October 14 2011 10:26 GMT
#354
i think people would play till all their accounts reach peak elo and then they will go inactive again anyway. i'm all for getting something for nothing out of blizz though!
The Show of a Lifetime
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 14 2011 12:13 GMT
#355
The way I see it you don't even need "multiple ranks" on the actual league boards. Just keep stats independently for each race individually with separate MMR ratings and calculate points separately (with an independent bonus pool per race). On a person's profile showcase their highest league rank and have the others as annotations somewhere.

So if you're Platinum 400 points Zerg, Masters 1200 Terran and Silver 900 Protoss then you'll be classified as a Masters 1200 Terran on your profile, with an annotation on there somewhere as to your other race levels. Or even allow selection of the one you want to be placed in the actual league tables with.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
towerranger
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria134 Posts
October 14 2011 12:33 GMT
#356
i bought a 2nd starcraft 2 acc to play protoss, kinda enoying that this isnot implemented
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 14 2011 13:50 GMT
#357
On October 14 2011 10:44 QuasiMachina wrote:
If people were allowed to have multiple smurf accounts, we'd just end up with something looking like this.


The only thing stopping them is money. Besides; It'd only be allowed to happen because the NA ladder isn't competitive enough. And because deezer/lone should have been banned ages ago.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
October 14 2011 14:25 GMT
#358
You just need MMR's dependent on race. so when you select zerg, it considers how good you are independent of other results. You dont need multiple accounts or shit, just MMR based on race.
Flash Fan!
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
October 14 2011 17:26 GMT
#359
On October 14 2011 21:13 Lightspeaker wrote:
The way I see it you don't even need "multiple ranks" on the actual league boards. Just keep stats independently for each race individually with separate MMR ratings and calculate points separately (with an independent bonus pool per race). On a person's profile showcase their highest league rank and have the others as annotations somewhere.

So if you're Platinum 400 points Zerg, Masters 1200 Terran and Silver 900 Protoss then you'll be classified as a Masters 1200 Terran on your profile, with an annotation on there somewhere as to your other race levels. Or even allow selection of the one you want to be placed in the actual league tables with.


This would never happen. If you have the mechanics to be master with any race, you´ll be master with all the others. You can be a 800 Master Protoss, a 1000 Master Terran and a 1200 Master Zerg.
TankNasty
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada11 Posts
October 14 2011 18:17 GMT
#360
Super great idea! I would LOVE to have one ladder for each race! I've been playing Protoss in my team games because i want to try them out, but I'm never confident enough to use it on ladder because i know i would get destroyed!. I really hope bliz looks at this seriously and hopefully it can be implemented in the future :D
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