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RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
October 14 2011 18:35 GMT
#361
On October 14 2011 21:13 Lightspeaker wrote:
The way I see it you don't even need "multiple ranks" on the actual league boards. Just keep stats independently for each race individually with separate MMR ratings and calculate points separately (with an independent bonus pool per race). On a person's profile showcase their highest league rank and have the others as annotations somewhere.

So if you're Platinum 400 points Zerg, Masters 1200 Terran and Silver 900 Protoss then you'll be classified as a Masters 1200 Terran on your profile, with an annotation on there somewhere as to your other race levels. Or even allow selection of the one you want to be placed in the actual league tables with.


What if I change my mind on the race I want in the tables (do you mean divisions?), how does the ladder change?
Reckless60
Profile Joined August 2011
10 Posts
October 14 2011 19:09 GMT
#362
I would have eternal erection if i could ladder with other races without killing my ranking
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
October 14 2011 19:46 GMT
#363
ive been waiting for this so long, it would make warming up a ton easier.
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zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
October 14 2011 20:03 GMT
#364
I am one of those people who stopped playing SC2, just naturally. I think a lot of people stop playing, like me is because we like to play a lot of games, and new games etc. And SC2 for me isn't fun enough to play every day.
zimz
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#365
On October 15 2011 02:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 21:13 Lightspeaker wrote:
The way I see it you don't even need "multiple ranks" on the actual league boards. Just keep stats independently for each race individually with separate MMR ratings and calculate points separately (with an independent bonus pool per race). On a person's profile showcase their highest league rank and have the others as annotations somewhere.

So if you're Platinum 400 points Zerg, Masters 1200 Terran and Silver 900 Protoss then you'll be classified as a Masters 1200 Terran on your profile, with an annotation on there somewhere as to your other race levels. Or even allow selection of the one you want to be placed in the actual league tables with.


This would never happen. If you have the mechanics to be master with any race, you´ll be master with all the others. You can be a 800 Master Protoss, a 1000 Master Terran and a 1200 Master Zerg.


From one extreme to the other eh?

I agree that being Masters with one race and Silver in another would be impossible. However, it is quite possible to be Masters with one race and Diamond/Platinum with another. This game is not only about mechanics. There are many race-specific intricacies involved and the mechanics for each race are different as well although there are many similarities as well.
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Inertiaddict
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
October 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#366
I bought a second copy of the game so that I could use it to "just have fun". Also, it was an excuse to track down the Collector's Edition that I should have bought for myself in the first place.

That being said though, it'd be nice to have a placement for each race, since I'm Platinum with Terran and Silver, at best, with Protoss and Zerg.
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DjRetro
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile309 Posts
October 14 2011 22:29 GMT
#367
1 for each race would be ideal.
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Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
October 15 2011 00:48 GMT
#368
It would also be nice if every time a player plays in a tournament(or practice) on another server from home he had a choice other than to completely disregard the user agreement for use of the game.
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
October 15 2011 00:54 GMT
#369
fun ladder would be so awsome. and you could only play against other fun ladder people
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Warzilla
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic311 Posts
October 15 2011 01:00 GMT
#370
If you take starcraft 2 seriously - you dont play too much team games (especially 3v3 where there is not even tournaments 4 that at all which makes this even more silly to take as something SERIOUS) and youre not afraid to play 1v1 because thats just silly, when you wanna go for tournaments. THAT is really taking it SERIOUS. These types of threads just make me laugh and sad at the same time. My opinion
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worked13
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia93 Posts
October 15 2011 01:07 GMT
#371
I do like the idea of one ladder for each race. Not sure how likely something like this would be in reality for Blizzard to implement, but it sounds nice in theory. However, I'm sure all the people in this thread complaining about ladder anxiety would still find a way not to ladder given the introduction of a new ladder format. If you don't expose yourself to losing regularly (it will happen, no matter how good you are) then any amount of ladder changes will not change the way you mentally process a loss.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 15 2011 01:07 GMT
#372
I voted 3; I don't believe random should have its own rank, it should just rank you based on which race you spawn as.
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 15 2011 01:19 GMT
#373
lol 4 accounts.
2 max would be enough for ''unranked'' ladder.
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Iselian
Profile Joined March 2011
United States56 Posts
October 15 2011 01:37 GMT
#374
I think it could easily be solved by a ranked and unranked ladder. Even a "practice" ladder. The big thing would be having that lack of pressure and ability to maintain your rank, despite losses, but at the trade of not gaining anything for your wins. Some players might play only the unranked ladder, and I would be perfectly fine with that. Perhaps it could have its own MMR?

The big thing people are looking for, is the ability to play in the ladder setting of random opponents, random maps, without the risk of rank changes, neh? Simply break it apart into two ladders, and races available on both. If you choose to deviate on your ranked ladder, go for it. Your risk, your loss. If you choose to main race on the practice ladder, no worries, but your wins won't count on that big, shiny rank.
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Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 15 2011 01:37 GMT
#375
I really dont understand why they dont implement 4 1v1 leagues for each race choice. If you play teams with your friends they already make different ranks/leagues for each combination. It doesnt seem like itd be difficult at all for them to do the same with 1v1 leagues.

Honestly it sounds like another money grubbing decision by them to get people to buy multiple accounts for off racing
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
October 15 2011 01:49 GMT
#376
I would definately like to see blizz add more than one ladder for each players race, the only problem I see with that (and probably the reason it ownt happen) is because blizzard wouldnt be able to sell as many accounts.
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
October 15 2011 02:02 GMT
#377
Do it exactly like WC3. What was wrong with that?
one time
DjRetro
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile309 Posts
October 15 2011 02:16 GMT
#378
On October 15 2011 10:37 Supamang wrote:
I really dont understand why they dont implement 4 1v1 leagues for each race choice. If you play teams with your friends they already make different ranks/leagues for each combination. It doesnt seem like itd be difficult at all for them to do the same with 1v1 leagues.

Honestly it sounds like another money grubbing decision by them to get people to buy multiple accounts for off racing



EXACTLY. That's all. Blizzard just want to maximize their earnings.

GG capitalism lol
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 18 2011 17:57 GMT
#379
Thanks everyone for all the results and discussion. I received some PMs asking me to additionally post this on the BNET SC2 forums so I have obliged:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3413401490#1
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Thebbeuttiffulland
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil288 Posts
October 18 2011 17:59 GMT
#380
there shouldnt be any rank for "fun" or offrace because we will get back to warcraft 3 again where smurf pros crush casual players for fun
truth is out there
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