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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:37 jackthelad wrote: does the NASL not get that the Korean's are super-stars, and you have to pay for super-stars, Its clear who the loser is in this case. Seems like everyone is a loser here - fans, players, and NASL. I'm sure MC wouldn't mind a virtually guaranteed $20k-$40k. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:39 BoomNasty wrote: ya the koreans are the losers here. if it wasnt evident last season, they can easily make a lot of money in this. people just want to watch games, i could care less that koreans are not going. im actually happy because i like watching foreigners. having an almost korean free tournament is good by my standards That may be your opinion, but there are plenty like me, who will not be buying an NASL ticket because of lack of Korean talent. | ||
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jackthelad
6 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:38 Slider954 wrote: Wow another poster who just joined today and has 1 post to his credit..... yees..i'm a person with a joining day, and a first post!. miraculous! stastically thats errr.... required! ?? | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:26 cosimorondo wrote: Ultimately the burden is on the NASL to acquire the best and most interesting players. The Korean players represent an asset to the NASL's ad revenue. For instance, Boxer participating in a tournament generates interest which generates ad revenue (a lot more than NA and EU players). A 2000$ stipend may barely cover travel expenses if only economy options are taken. But what about paying them for their celebrity status? Famous people are payed large sums to make commencement speeches, to give you an example. You get what you pay for. $2000 doesn't pay for much these days. Thats why tournaments got something called a prize pool.... | ||
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andsaca
United States48 Posts
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:41 BackSideAttack wrote: That may be your opinion, but there are plenty like me, who will not be buying an NASL ticket because of lack of Korean talent. if your goal is to just watch koreans play, go by a gsl ticket. no idea why you would buy an NASL ticket... | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:43 andsaca wrote: still gonna watch, still gonna buy a season ticket. the NASL has too much potential to not support it yes i agree. i mean people are going mad about koreans not playing... whats wrong with having a tournament without koreans? | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:43 BoomNasty wrote: if your goal is to just watch koreans play, go by a gsl ticket. no idea why you would buy an NASL ticket... Lol can I not want to see more starcraft? I buy tickets for every league with Koreans so that I never run out of starcraft. | ||
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Punti
99 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:32 BoomNasty wrote: I don't want to sound bad here, but you would think the Koreans would suck it up for this and pay their players to travel because the foreigner scene is doing a HELL of a lot more for esports than Korea is actually doing. We cannot further esports by ourselves, we need to have the best competition at every single event we can. Those people make their living out of that. I think it's not the fact that they do not want to see esports grow, but mainly that they have to keep an eye on the financial aspect. There are financial interests involved, from all sides, and that surely doesn't make things easier. Sure, just doing things for the community is great, but you have to consider the fact that everyone of them is an individual person who needs food, a place to live and a future. It's easy to be a part of the community. You just have your normal job and life, and at evening you turn on your pc and watch a stream. That doesn't mean you deserve anything from them, because it's them who are investing their lifes, not you. | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:47 BackSideAttack wrote: Lol can I not want to see more starcraft? I buy tickets for every league with Koreans so that I never run out of starcraft. well im glad you just want to watch koreans, i never said it was wrong. i dont understand why you are blaming NASL for something they tried to accommodate. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:47 BoomNasty wrote: yes i agree. i mean people are going mad about koreans not playing... whats wrong with having a tournament without koreans? A lot of people want to see the best players play against their home grown players. It's why foreign teams are signing NBA players for exorbitant sums during the lockout. The Turkish team that is signing Kobe pays him far more than what they pay their native Turkish players because their fans want to see the best. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
Offering a 1000 dollar travel stipend in addition to increasing the base prize would cover the travel costs and that's pretty fair. Giving additional benefits to the Koreans only would be very unfair to the rest of the players in the League. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:47 BoomNasty wrote: yes i agree. i mean people are going mad about koreans not playing... whats wrong with having a tournament without koreans? Nothing wrong per se, but there's a ton of people that thought Boxer@Anaheim was completely awesome. Personally, it would have been a significantly lesser tournament without him, from a entertainment/fan perspective. | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:49 Punti wrote: Those people make their living out of that. I think it's not the fact that they do not want to see esports grow, but mainly that they have to keep an eye on the financial aspect. There are financial interests involved, from all sides, and that surely doesn't make things easier. Sure, just doing things for the community is great, but you have to consider the fact that everyone of them is an individual person who needs food, a place to live and a future. It's easy to be a part of the community. You just have your normal job and life, and at evening you turn on your pc and watch a stream. That doesn't mean you deserve anything from them, because it's them who are investing their lifes, not you. i totally agree with you. its just many people in korea have noticed that there is far more potential outside of korea, and have taken measures to do that. its just sad that team managers are not finding ways to allow their players to travel. if teams outside of korea can manage to send their players around their world (ex. HuK who seems to be all over the world these days). there is more than enough sponsorship available, imo, its just they are not doing what they can to get these sponsors | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:51 Smackzilla wrote: Nothing wrong per se, but there's a ton of people that thought Boxer@Anaheim was completely awesome. Personally, it would have been a significantly lesser tournament without him, from a entertainment/fan perspective. you cant really say that, because if hes not there a lot of things would be different, and for all we know it could have been better | ||
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:55 BoomNasty wrote: you cant really say that, because if hes not there a lot of things would be different, and for all we know it could have been better better how? seeing lesser players make it to top 3? i don't see how NOT having the face of the starcraft series, or gaming altogether, would have been beneficial to MLG. | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:50 BackSideAttack wrote: A lot of people want to see the best players play against their home grown players. It's why foreign teams are signing NBA players for exorbitant sums during the lockout. The Turkish team that is signing Kobe pays him far more than what they pay their native Turkish players because their fans want to see the best. i agree, and idk if youve seen my other posts, im basically saying that the korean managers arent doing enough to send their players to tournaments. people outside of korea send people all over the place. but if the koreans are going to be dumb about this even after what the NASL offered them, im not going to hold it against anyone | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:55 BoomNasty wrote: you cant really say that, because if hes not there a lot of things would be different, and for all we know it could have been better I highly doubt that. Look at the traffic between MLG Dallas and MLG Columbus. Then Look at MLG Anaheim. The traffic has gotten exponentially higher for subsequent MLGs and that's due to the Koreans/Boxer. | ||
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BoomNasty
United States265 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:57 ballasdontcry wrote: better how? seeing lesser players make it to top 3? i don't see how NOT having the face of the starcraft series, or gaming altogether, would have been beneficial to MLG. never hear of the butterfly effect? we will never know how good the tournament would have been if boxer didnt show up. you cant go to extremes to say that without him it would have been awful because you just dont know that | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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