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Canada5052 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:26 Lamphead wrote: Sundance DiGiovanni > guy running NASL MLG had to provide Korea players an all expenses paid trip and guaranteed seeding into pool play so that we would have the honor of watching them win all of MLGs prize money. That's a great deal for the Koreans, the fans and MLG, but is kind of a slap in the face to all the NA and European teams that have play through the tournament and pay their own bills. | ||
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Misanthrophic13
Bahrain22 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:05 Serpico wrote: Players dont have to be reasonable at all? All NASL's fault. 2k is more than you think and probably understand seeing as how this is a business. You're almost saying NASL should just cave to their demands without thinking about their bank account. This has nothing to do with travel, more to do with the horrible production quality, the lack of business ethics on the part of the NASL taking forever to reimburse their deposits, Puma's Grand prize. The TSL-EG debacle. It has nothing to do with the $2000 stipend. | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:39 Misanthrophic13 wrote: This has nothing to do with travel, more to do with the horrible production quality, the lack of business ethics on the part of the NASL taking forever to reimburse their deposits, Puma's Grand prize. The TSL-EG debacle. It has nothing to do with the $2000 stipend. You mean they did reimburse them a month before they had to according to the contract that all the korean teams signed. That's what you meant, right? | ||
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KingTony
United States46 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:39 Misanthrophic13 wrote: This has nothing to do with travel, more to do with the horrible production quality, the lack of business ethics on the part of the NASL taking forever to reimburse their deposits, Puma's Grand prize. The TSL-EG debacle. It has nothing to do with the $2000 stipend. Ha NASL taking forever to pay players. Dude 60 days is short. And players have already started getting deposit backs after just 30 days. That is a very quick turnaround. | ||
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Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:41 KingTony wrote: I might be wrong, but isn't this a closely mirrored situation tp foreigners take on not wanting to participate in the GSL? This is not comparable because foreign players did not sign a contract prior to qualifying for the GSL only to break this contract, putting the entire organization of the league into jeopardy and wasting immense amounts of everyone's time, players and organizers. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:41 KingTony wrote: I might be wrong, but isn't this a closely mirrored situation tp foreigners take on not wanting to participate in the GSL? MLG Exchange program addressed all the complaints. Their travel expenses are covered and they're given free lodging and practice partners. Which is why you saw Thorzain, Fenix, Sase, and Naniwa in Code A. Just covering everyone's travel expenses and lowering the prize pool would make everyone, the players, NASL, and the viewers happy. | ||
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creamer
Canada128 Posts
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
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muddymuddy
United States22 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:26 Lamphead wrote: Sundance DiGiovanni > guy running NASL Why? MLG has an exchange program for 4 Koreans. NASL is offering to sponsor a lot more players on a lot tighter budget (15 Koreans). Overall NASL is willing to give more money to bring Korean players, on top of a prize pool that dwarfs that of MLG. Regardless, if money is such a big issue for Korean teams, then it would make sense to think long-term in regards to sponsorships. Often times, to make money you have to spend money. NASL is spending money to make money. It goes the same for Korean teams. They need to take the risk that participating in NASL gives (which has been made minor by NASL stipends). The mere exposure that NASL provides is a profitable return, as Korean teams need to look for non-Korean sponsors moving into the future and NASL provides exposure to Western sponsors. Let alone the prize pool. It appears to me that SC2Con may be looking at this in a short-term way, which might not be the wisest decision given the current situation of Korean teams. | ||
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traxdatacd
Croatia21 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:11 Lrod wrote: Guess i wont be watching NASL next season. User was warned for this post why warned? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Sushi7412
Korea (South)2 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:55 muddymuddy wrote: Why? MLG has an exchange program for 4 Koreans. NASL is offering to sponsor a lot more players on a lot tighter budget (15 Koreans). Overall NASL is willing to give more money to bring Korean players, on top of a prize pool that dwarfs that of MLG. Regardless, if money is such a big issue for Korean teams, then it would make sense to think long-term in regards to sponsorships. Often times, to make money you have to spend money. NASL is spending money to make money. It goes the same for Korean teams. They need to take the risk that participating in NASL gives (which has been made minor by NASL stipends). The mere exposure that NASL provides is a profitable return, as Korean teams need to look for non-Korean sponsors moving into the future and NASL provides exposure to Western sponsors. Let alone the prize pool. It appears to me that SC2Con may be looking at this in a short-term way, which might not be the wisest decision given the current situation of Korean teams. I agree, and I feel sorry for Pros who actually want to participate but can not just because of few representatives. If anything (regardless of the business perspective) it harms Korea and Koreans in general (SC2 community wise). | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On August 13 2011 06:58 AsnSensation wrote: I just figured that catz has to be the big man behind NASL, no koreans in the NORTH AMERICAN star league, which means if things stay like this, there will be the first major tournament a foreigner takes down and cashes huge amounts ...... or puma again Probably not, there are more independant Koreans out there then just puma, her0, huk (if you count him as Korean like IEM did) and rain. I'm sure NASL is already looking into these types of players as we speak for invites. | ||
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mystrdat
Czech Republic5 Posts
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phuzi0n
United States308 Posts
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On August 13 2011 07:08 mystrdat wrote: This is just a part of the story, subjectively biased towards NASL as it is NASL posting it. I want to see the Koreans making an offical statement about this. Either way if the best Korean players are out, there goes my ticket. I'm not sure, but I think its been posted that the Koreans aren't going to make a statement. Like I said, not sure and I really don't have the energy to go looking for the post(s). | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On August 13 2011 05:54 BoomNasty wrote: i totally agree with you. its just many people in korea have noticed that there is far more potential outside of korea, and have taken measures to do that. its just sad that team managers are not finding ways to allow their players to travel. if teams outside of korea can manage to send their players around their world (ex. HuK who seems to be all over the world these days). there is more than enough sponsorship available, imo, its just they are not doing what they can to get these sponsors You got any idea how the fiance works there? if not you got no right to say shit like "they are not doing what they can" The "problem" in korea for Starcraft 2 is Brood war, it runs away with almost everything. This is something that in the west simply does not exists so its impossible to compare. | ||
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