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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:36 RodYan wrote: Probably. I've never heard of him. Exactly what SC2 tournaments has he posted results in? Umm, Testie is a crazy good RTS player, if you had followed SC:BW you'd have heard of him, he's sick. He took games off of the likes of Bisu. (watch those games btw) | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On August 10 2011 07:35 zz_ wrote: How's that relevant when the thread is MOBA vs SC2. Also I don't even understand what you're trying to show with the first, second and third video. Emotional hype videos and commentators getting excited? Hell every game with a relatively large fanbase has that... I dont even know why he posted BW in this thread. BW is already established, with big sponsors, and TV channels dedicated to it. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:32 Slithice wrote: Angrytestie said that he prefers HoN over sc2, is that because he cant macro/micro/multi-talk properly? I doubt it. Why do you even bother, he's a troll. Anyway, I think that both sc2 and dota2 will become major esports. They are both fun, skilled, have active communities and people loving them. Only thing is dota is kinda hard for a newbie to follow. Maybe Valve will do something about that. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:36 RodYan wrote: Probably. I've never heard of him. Exactly what SC2 tournaments has he posted results in? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/international/players/1230_Testie/main  | ||
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Slithice
Canada78 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:36 RodYan wrote: Probably. I've never heard of him. Exactly what SC2 tournaments has he posted results in? He used to be a sc:bw pro player and the best player in north america for a while... I guess I took your post too seriously and its only YOUR opinion. | ||
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:36 RodYan wrote: Probably. I've never heard of him. Exactly what SC2 tournaments has he posted results in? Famous BW player, he performed extremely well as a foreigner. On topic, it's hard to say. MOBA games are quite hard to get into as a spectator with no prior knowledge, more so than Starcraft 2 imo. With the right investments, presentation and casters, sure. | ||
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oBlade
United States5712 Posts
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:36 RodYan wrote: Probably. I've never heard of him. Exactly what SC2 tournaments has he posted results in? lololololol wow...... | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On August 10 2011 06:32 figq wrote: When MOBA could deliver stuff like these, maybe then we could talk: + Show Spoiler [OSL History 1999-2010] + @39m17s (it's set to auto-start there) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvd-GXMPYao#t=39m17s ![[image loading]](http://c.ask.nate.com/imgs/qrsi.php/5865023/7956145/0/1/A/185.jpg) just... lol of all the videos you could have linked to highlight broodwar's rich history, you link us a klazart commentary | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Competitively, no. It is much harder to balance 80+ champions than it is to balance 3 races. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:50 57 Corvette wrote: Casually, yes. Competitively, no. It is much harder to balance 80+ champions than it is to balance 3 races. it is much harder to balance 43+ units than it is to balance 2 sides. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:55 Steveling wrote: it is much harder to balance 43+ units than it is to balance 2 sides. DoTA is a much deeper game, theres really not an argument and I prefer sc2 of MOBA games. Its one thing for me to have a preference though and its another to be ignorant. Deeper =/= better, but DOTA/HoN are just more complex overall. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:49 billyX333 wrote: The four links cover different aspects of why RTS creates a madly intense scene, that actually is fun to spectate, as well as play - and not just fun to play.just... lol of all the videos you could have linked to highlight broodwar's rich history, you link us a klazart commentary | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
On August 10 2011 08:42 ReturnStroke wrote: Umm, Testie is a crazy good RTS player, if you had followed SC:BW you'd have heard of him, he's sick. He took games off of the likes of Bisu. (watch those games btw) When did he beat bisu lol? | ||
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Divergence
Canada363 Posts
I have a quick question just about the community for those games. It seems with StarCraft the community is unquestionably big. The amount of quality community content out there seemingly dwarfs any other game I have ever played. All the pros in SC are constantly talked about (almost too much), there are so many community personalities and there are several weekly (even daily) shows about starcraft, and people are always streaming. How does the community of these MOBA games compare to StarCraft? I think to judge the "size" of a community you have to account for more than just the amount of players. StarCraft may be small (in terms of players) in comparison but the "community content to players ratio" seems enormous. Do any of these games have a comparable amount of community content? Also, what about the tournaments? How does the tournament scene in these games compares to SC2? | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On August 10 2011 10:51 Divergence wrote: To those who play DotA/HoN/LoL: I have a quick question just about the community for those games. It seems with StarCraft the community is unquestionably big. The amount of quality community content out there seemingly dwarfs any other game I have ever played. All the pros in SC are constantly talked about (almost too much), there are so many community personalities and there are several weekly (even daily) shows about starcraft, and people are always streaming. How does the community of these MOBA games compare to StarCraft? I think to judge the "size" of a community you have to account for more than just the amount of players. StarCraft may be small (in terms of players) in comparison but the "community content to players ratio" seems enormous. Do any of these games have a comparable amount of community content? Also, what about the tournaments? How does the tournament scene in these games compares to SC2? There are more trolls, db's, wannabees in the dota communities than actually intelligent and helpful people. The players are not much better either. Most bm like mofos, while having enormous egos. On both cases there are bright exeptions ofc. In total the Dota community is one of the worst I've encountered, like, in any game ever.(I know the reasons why dota attracts such an audience but I shall not go into this) The tournaments are there and some of them are going on for quite a few years. The prizes are too small though. I'd say a good 80% of pro players don't have salaries and in general the whole structure seems very unorganized and amatuerish. Let me finish by saying that most of these problems stem from the fact that dota is just a custom map with no real support behind it. So I expect many of these things to eclipse gradually with the coming of Dota2. | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
On August 10 2011 07:54 figq wrote: The thread is about the leader of esports. I haven't seen MOBA create such a scene, show me please, something worthy. edit: and lasting. No, the thread is between MOBAs and SC2. Read the title. And your videos still aren't making any sense, what do you mean with MOBAs creating "such a scene". What kind of scene? The picture is self-explanatory, BW has a huge following, sure, but how on earth does the klazartling video and the OSL hype video prove anything else than the fact that people like BW and Klazart speaks way too fast. You're just linking stuff you find emotionally engaging while providing zero context. A person who likes dota might as well link you to the LGD vs Kingsurf replay from 2009 and it would mean just as little to you as the stuff you linked means to someone who follows MOBAs exclusively. | ||
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