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Petrina
Profile Joined December 2010
United States178 Posts
July 31 2011 15:26 GMT
#841
Replays are much better than VODS. Replays allow you to move the camera freely, watch any stats you want at any point in time, etc.

For training purposes VODS are not that good as replays. For entertainment reasons, VODS are good of course.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 31 2011 15:30 GMT
#842
On August 01 2011 00:23 RoyalCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 00:19 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
On July 31 2011 22:23 XiGua wrote:
MLG releasing replays made it my favourite tournament ever. Now that they removed that feature I have become a sad panda.

I still don't see it as a reason BIG enough to stop giving replays to the public. "DDoS" can't be prevented by you MLG. It is a matter that Blizzard has to fix.

Ask the players to give you permission releasing the replays. If some refuse, don't release those players replays but if some agree, please do release theirs. Some replays are better than no replays at all.


They made a mistake by claiming that you can be DDoS'ed by a replay file, they admit that now. Actually I'm not even sure what they are claiming can be done through a replay file, they're not saying.


Once can figure out the character name and code of a player and then spam whispers and invites etc to harass him during the play. Obviously, you can't be "DDoSed by a replay file"


Character name yes, not the code.
The spice must flow
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 31 2011 16:25 GMT
#843
On August 01 2011 00:30 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 00:23 RoyalCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 00:19 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
On July 31 2011 22:23 XiGua wrote:
MLG releasing replays made it my favourite tournament ever. Now that they removed that feature I have become a sad panda.

I still don't see it as a reason BIG enough to stop giving replays to the public. "DDoS" can't be prevented by you MLG. It is a matter that Blizzard has to fix.

Ask the players to give you permission releasing the replays. If some refuse, don't release those players replays but if some agree, please do release theirs. Some replays are better than no replays at all.


They made a mistake by claiming that you can be DDoS'ed by a replay file, they admit that now. Actually I'm not even sure what they are claiming can be done through a replay file, they're not saying.


Once can figure out the character name and code of a player and then spam whispers and invites etc to harass him during the play. Obviously, you can't be "DDoSed by a replay file"


Character name yes, not the code.


Really? I thought code was there. Well i checked https://github.com/GraylinKim/sc2reader/wiki/Replay.details which seems to indicate that you can get real id from the file, which is even worse (not sure if the source is reliable though)
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 31 2011 16:31 GMT
#844
This will happen sooner or later, just a matter of time. Beside reasons that MLG stated, not releasing replay is a way to protect players from being over studied thus make the game less fun.
In BW, no replays of any tourney in Korea was released( not counting the early years ). This will make copy a build or study a player much harder thus make games that played in tournies seems more prestige and more fun.

This sucks for the mass but I believe most pro are welcoming this.
Terran
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
July 31 2011 16:50 GMT
#845
Hang on...if its risk to the event, why not just release the replays after the finals?

I call BS.
waitwhat
Profile Joined February 2011
United States152 Posts
July 31 2011 16:53 GMT
#846
It's bad enough the Koreans come over here to take our winnings from MLG, but now we can't even learn from them through replays.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 31 2011 16:56 GMT
#847
now i cant even get to my own replays of the event -_-
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 31 2011 16:58 GMT
#848
On August 01 2011 01:50 DaemonX wrote:
Hang on...if its risk to the event, why not just release the replays after the finals?

I call BS.


Because that means the risk goes onto the next event..
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 31 2011 16:58 GMT
#849
On August 01 2011 01:50 DaemonX wrote:
Hang on...if its risk to the event, why not just release the replays after the finals?

I call BS.

Because the casters & some of the players will use the same accounts for future events.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
July 31 2011 17:00 GMT
#850
Really lame. I think MLG is being overly cautious.

Another reason LAN would be more ideal.
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
Catchafire2000
Profile Joined August 2010
United States227 Posts
July 31 2011 17:12 GMT
#851
On August 01 2011 01:31 Caphe wrote:
This will happen sooner or later, just a matter of time. Beside reasons that MLG stated, not releasing replay is a way to protect players from being over studied thus make the game less fun.
In BW, no replays of any tourney in Korea was released( not counting the early years ). This will make copy a build or study a player much harder thus make games that played in tournies seems more prestige and more fun.

This sucks for the mass but I believe most pro are welcoming this.



This approach is dumb. If that's the case, they might as well stop streaming their games because a lot of intel is gained by your rivals. The more involved the community is in watching and understanding the game, the better it is for the sport on a whole. We aren't living in the past where this kind of freedom was limited.
jabooty
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 31 2011 17:22 GMT
#852
On August 01 2011 01:58 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 01:50 DaemonX wrote:
Hang on...if its risk to the event, why not just release the replays after the finals?

I call BS.


Because that means the risk goes onto the next event..

This is irrelevant because most players already went to Columbus and MLG released those replays so MLG should already be at risk anyway... it's obviously just a thinly veiled cover story so they can make us pay for vods or watch tons of advertisements, gotta love selling out
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
July 31 2011 17:55 GMT
#853
we want the replays! we want the replays! give us the replays!
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 31 2011 18:02 GMT
#854
Blizzard released the MMA vs Losira replays from Columbus. They have valuable information about the caster ID's. Why isn't MLG begging Blizzard to stop advertising MLG, oh that's right I mean "endangering the quality of the casts".

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
July 31 2011 18:35 GMT
#855
Looking at some of the games we missed, it's horribly disappointing that there will be no replays.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
July 31 2011 18:51 GMT
#856
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GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
July 31 2011 18:57 GMT
#857
On August 01 2011 01:58 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 01:50 DaemonX wrote:
Hang on...if its risk to the event, why not just release the replays after the finals?

I call BS.

Because the casters & some of the players will use the same accounts for future events.


They can strip all info from replays. However, they say this is against ToS (while selling a replay is definitely prohibited, the ToS is less clear about this situation). Of course Blizzard would NEVER prosecute them for doing so, and if they wanted to be safe, a simple request letter would surely result in permission.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 19:03:29
July 31 2011 19:02 GMT
#858
+ Show Spoiler +
Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.


Wait, so will replays be released after the event?
(didn't read through all 40 pages sry :/ )


answer 2 posts above mine, sry
nkwd
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States99 Posts
July 31 2011 19:44 GMT
#859
PLEASE PLEASE at least release the game 1 between Boxer and Rain. PLEASE!
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
July 31 2011 20:11 GMT
#860
everytime we have an amazing game the joy of it is sapped by the knowledge that we wont get to see the replays of that amazing game. fuck you very much MLG
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