EPTNo replays released from Anaheim - Page 41
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Doomwish
438 Posts
obviously they don't cast all the games..or even close to all the games. So this simply means we will not ever see many of the games played at this tournament.....  | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
On July 31 2011 16:33 graph1k wrote: MLG does something very minor and now people get mad at them? They are not doing this for money in the first place, they are doing it for a smoother MLG/Player experience. Everyone here who is getting mad at MLG is basically saying, "I want this, but they won't let me have it, they are therefore evil." This is what kindergarten children think. You have plenty of other places to get replays from if you want to analyze a pro. MLG was really the only tourny to actually release replays, now they don't. That doesn't make them an evil monster it just means they changed something. If you are going to get mad at MLG for not having replays, then go harass NASL, GSL, DH, etc to release theirs. I bet you they will give you almost the exact same answer as MLG now, it is for the players protection. on all this events, we are able to see all games, on MLG we see only few of many games, thats why replays are that important on MLG. | ||
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hasuterrans
United States614 Posts
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
if they use championship(MLG accounts for champ bracket) accounts then they can purchase a name change or buy new accounts the cost of which would be a pittance. I know it would be stupid but seriously i would atleast be willing to pay 10-15$ to see cruncher and a couple other peoples open bracket replays. (did they even cast the slayers alica game vs. tod cause i really want to see that too.) | ||
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sevia
United States954 Posts
On July 31 2011 16:33 graph1k wrote: Everyone here who is getting mad at MLG is basically saying, "I want this, but they won't let me have it, they are therefore evil." This is what kindergarten children think. You have plenty of other places to get replays from if you want to analyze a pro. MLG was really the only tourny to actually release replays, now they don't. That doesn't make them an evil monster it just means they changed something. If you are going to get mad at MLG for not having replays, then go harass NASL, GSL, DH, etc to release theirs. MLG has released replays repeatedly in the past with no problems. Why is the MLG Columbus replay pack not ruining Anaheim? Because it doesn't make a difference. If someone was determined to spam a player, all they have to do is find a *single* person who played in the tournament, and follow the chain of Match History games to find any account they need. Finding BNet IDs through encoded replay data would be the hardest possible way to do it. That's part of why people are mad at MLG: they basically lied to us to justify not releasing them instead of being upfront about the "issue," which turns out to hardly be an issue at all. Nobody thinks MLG is evil for this, just stupid. This was a valuable resource to a lot of players, and now suddenly it's been denied to them for no reason. You can say 'well GSL and NASL don't release them,' but they have monetary reasons not to, while MLG does not. Imagine you stay at a hotel for several nights. One night, they take away your pillows, claiming that the risk of you smothering the staff and suffocating them is too high. Maybe once they develop suffocation-free pillows you can have them back, they say. Would you be pissed? + Show Spoiler + Excuse the poor analogy, but your point is simply wrong. | ||
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Azz
Australia65 Posts
No replays = You buy MLG passes. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On July 31 2011 17:12 sevia wrote: MLG has released replays repeatedly in the past with no problems. Why is the MLG Columbus replay pack not ruining Anaheim? Because it doesn't make a difference. If someone was determined to spam a player, all they have to do is find a *single* person who played in the tournament, and follow the chain of Match History games to find any account they need. Finding BNet IDs through encoded replay data would be the hardest possible way to do it. That's part of why people are mad at MLG: they basically lied to us to justify not releasing them instead of being upfront about the "issue," which turns out to hardly be an issue at all. Nobody thinks MLG is evil for this, just stupid. This was a valuable resource to a lot of players, and now suddenly it's been denied to them for no reason. You can say 'well GSL and NASL don't release them,' but they have monetary reasons not to, while MLG does not. Imagine you stay at a hotel for several nights. One night, they take away your pillows, claiming that the risk of you smothering the staff and suffocating them is too high. Maybe once they develop suffocation-free pillows you can have them back, they say. Would you be pissed? + Show Spoiler + Excuse the poor analogy, but your point is simply wrong. I would be extremely pissed, especially if that was the only hotel that provided pillows! | ||
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sevia
United States954 Posts
On July 31 2011 17:20 iamke55 wrote: I would be extremely pissed, especially if that was the only hotel that provided pillows! Yeah, I did say poor analogy. But Dreamhack provides them, and no one has gotten smothered there, as far as I know. | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:16 Excalibur_Z wrote: Okay so this still doesn't sidestep the "chat spam" issue. That's not going away just because they're not releasing replays. We've already discussed the whole "you can't get character codes from replays" thing (and the ones where you could do this via replayfu, they're not actually derived from replays IIRC, they're derived from back when the Battle.net Web profiles displayed the character codes, and that information can be referenced later). What probably happened before and will no doubt happen again is that the character name will be displayed on the stream, and people (I'm pretty sure who) will just guess 1000 character codes until they get the right one, then it gets posted, then mass spamming occurs again. This is a fundamental Battle.net issue regarding how chat during Busy status is handled and not a replay issue. There is actually a far easier way to get character codes through bnet which I discovered and will not disclose. ;p but your point is still valid. | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
On July 31 2011 17:07 hasuterrans wrote: I don't understand why they don't just release the replays after MLG is over. MLG has always released replays; it was one of my favorite things about the tournament. i think they want us to buy their VODs rather than watching it for free | ||
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KalinSC2
Bulgaria37 Posts
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Xaerkar
United States230 Posts
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Exstasy
United Kingdom393 Posts
Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way . Someone explain this to me T.T (I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ ) | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On July 31 2011 16:51 Nexic wrote: MLG is held over one weekend whereas GSL and NASL both took >1 month to finish. Also, I'm sure none, if any, of the Code A qualifiers were broadcasted. I think the only equivalent would be Dreamhack, but even they didn't cast the BYOC tournament This is not the case, Dreamhack had casters for the BYOC, they just weren't on-site. | ||
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sevia
United States954 Posts
On July 31 2011 18:08 Exstasy wrote: There have been 10+ Responses all asking the same question but they have all been ignored. Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way . Someone explain this to me T.T (I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ ) Their reasoning is that the casters and players use the same accounts for every event, so they can't release them or they'll just get spammed the next tournament. For some reason they don't realize that if anyone wanted to get account codes, they could just look at the MLG Columbus replays. And it would only work for certain, older accounts, so as far as I know they could just create new accounts for the casters and be perfectly fine. | ||
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
does anyone know of other players that have copied/uploaded their replays from the open bracket? having access to all those replays just with a simple click on the bracket was a fucking awesome service. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
On July 31 2011 18:08 Exstasy wrote: There have been 10+ Responses all asking the same question but they have all been ignored. Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way . Someone explain this to me T.T (I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ ) the reason is really simple: I guess the special casters will release their vods on the mlg site to which you only get access if you have a mlg pack. At least this is my guess | ||
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