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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
July 31 2011 09:59 GMT
#821
On July 31 2011 18:29 sevia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 18:08 Exstasy wrote:
There have been 10+ Responses all asking the same question but they have all been ignored.

Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way .

Someone explain this to me T.T

(I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ )


Their reasoning is that the casters and players use the same accounts for every event, so they can't release them or they'll just get spammed the next tournament.

For some reason they don't realize that if anyone wanted to get account codes, they could just look at the MLG Columbus replays. And it would only work for certain, older accounts, so as far as I know they could just create new accounts for the casters and be perfectly fine.


Well I guess the people spamming the casters during games can't get the rest of the IDs via match history anyway. Oh wait. ;d;d;d;

Pity. But for the record, I'm also of opinion that there's just stupidity behind this decision, and not actual greediness.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 10:01:26
July 31 2011 10:00 GMT
#822
On July 31 2011 18:50 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 18:08 Exstasy wrote:
There have been 10+ Responses all asking the same question but they have all been ignored.

Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way .

Someone explain this to me T.T

(I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ )

the reason is really simple: I guess the special casters will release their vods on the mlg site to which you only get access if you have a mlg pack. At least this is my guess


It's always really simple, when you are guessing
I am not young enough to know everything.
sprd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 10:04:41
July 31 2011 10:04 GMT
#823
I think this may be my first post, but i must say.. The replay pack was my favorite thing about MLG. Especially since its rare to grab a korean pro replay. Its hard to go back and really analyze anything with a vod and with DJwheat controlling what you actually see.... im usually trying to click on the minimap myself....

adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
July 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#824
This is silly, ruin one of the best features of MLG just to try and make a dent in an annoying practice?

I appreciate that MLG cant sell replays or modify them without getting sued by Blizzard or something but still, why? This wont end the practice you claim it will, a much better solution would be to open a discussion with Blizzard behind closed doors about implementing features in the game to eradicate this practice rather than punish us for the acts of a few which so far, havent ruined an event, a few games may have lagged but from what I've seen theres none have been stopped for more than a minute or so, and those cases are rare.
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 31 2011 10:10 GMT
#825
They are probably going to make the replays available to subscribers and make money out of it.

With all the tweets Sundance has been posting asking for more money, its not really surprising to me.
HuTSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia188 Posts
July 31 2011 12:37 GMT
#826
On July 31 2011 07:33 MLG_Lee wrote:
Folks, no one said we were going to "sell replays to casters"--we said we would work with casters we trust and like to produce VoDs.

Monetizing in this context means serving ads.


Why are you responding to the most minor of concerns here?

There's quite an obvious backlash to this decision, and if MLG is really "for the fans", what are the chances of a reversal of this horrible decision..
Josri
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands219 Posts
July 31 2011 12:39 GMT
#827
On the sc2 app for android I saw huk vs naniwa and idra vs boxer free yesterday. probably more now
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 31 2011 12:44 GMT
#828
On July 31 2011 14:24 aksfjh wrote:
Meh, not as big of a deal as everybody is making it. I don't see people whine about GSL/NASL/etc replays. Sure, replays are nice, but they were an unusual (yet great) feature in the first place.


The reason nobody complains about GSL and NASL replays is that THEY CAST EVERY GAME, in MLG we see about 1/3 of the games played, and with the arrival of many Korean pros through the pool/open brackets, we have the chance to get a rare rep pack from some of the greatest players in the world. It was one of the greatest aspects of MLG in the past, now not so much.

That's why we whine.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
July 31 2011 12:46 GMT
#829
On July 31 2011 19:10 thehitman wrote:
They are probably going to make the replays available to subscribers and make money out of it.

With all the tweets Sundance has been posting asking for more money, its not really surprising to me.



They can't; it's in the ToS that replays can't be sold.
slmw
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Finland233 Posts
July 31 2011 12:56 GMT
#830
Why do they expect to get 100K subscribers when they have severely lowered their product quality with bullshit reasoning. There has been no way to convert bnet id into a character code since last October, when it was patched out.
maritini
Profile Joined October 2004
Greece121 Posts
July 31 2011 13:04 GMT
#831
This sucks.. MLG reps were the BEST thing ever. I dont like watching every stream for countless hours even though I gladly pay for it (just for support).

I prefer reps
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 31 2011 13:07 GMT
#832
Sounds like a way to increase VOD pass sales to me. May be wrong tho.
oh, hai
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
July 31 2011 13:09 GMT
#833
If they choose not to publice replays it is their decission. I hope the reason behind this is just because they don't want pro players tactics to be revealed as easily as they would just release replays. Either way, it is still sad not to see replays.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 31 2011 13:23 GMT
#834
MLG releasing replays made it my favourite tournament ever. Now that they removed that feature I have become a sad panda.

I still don't see it as a reason BIG enough to stop giving replays to the public. "DDoS" can't be prevented by you MLG. It is a matter that Blizzard has to fix.

Ask the players to give you permission releasing the replays. If some refuse, don't release those players replays but if some agree, please do release theirs. Some replays are better than no replays at all.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
antikk555
Profile Joined March 2011
85 Posts
July 31 2011 15:11 GMT
#835
Unless these replays are released Im not going to buy any more HD passes for MLG events.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 15:14:05
July 31 2011 15:13 GMT
#836
as R1CH pointed out, MLG are just being greedy and money grubbing by refusing to give us replays to force us to watch vods and advertisements

gonna boycott mlg because of this.
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 31 2011 15:19 GMT
#837
On July 31 2011 19:00 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 18:50 Tofugrinder wrote:
On July 31 2011 18:08 Exstasy wrote:
There have been 10+ Responses all asking the same question but they have all been ignored.

Why can't they just release the reps after the Event?, This won't affect the event in any way .

Someone explain this to me T.T

(I need MVP and DRG Reps =/ )

the reason is really simple: I guess the special casters will release their vods on the mlg site to which you only get access if you have a mlg pack. At least this is my guess


It's always really simple, when you are guessing


Well said
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 31 2011 15:19 GMT
#838
On July 31 2011 22:23 XiGua wrote:
MLG releasing replays made it my favourite tournament ever. Now that they removed that feature I have become a sad panda.

I still don't see it as a reason BIG enough to stop giving replays to the public. "DDoS" can't be prevented by you MLG. It is a matter that Blizzard has to fix.

Ask the players to give you permission releasing the replays. If some refuse, don't release those players replays but if some agree, please do release theirs. Some replays are better than no replays at all.


They made a mistake by claiming that you can be DDoS'ed by a replay file, they admit that now. Actually I'm not even sure what they are claiming can be done through a replay file, they're not saying.
The spice must flow
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 31 2011 15:21 GMT
#839
Also, if the VODS are avalible for people paying for membership only, i'm extremely ok with that. Sounds like an amazing added bonus.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 31 2011 15:23 GMT
#840
On August 01 2011 00:19 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 22:23 XiGua wrote:
MLG releasing replays made it my favourite tournament ever. Now that they removed that feature I have become a sad panda.

I still don't see it as a reason BIG enough to stop giving replays to the public. "DDoS" can't be prevented by you MLG. It is a matter that Blizzard has to fix.

Ask the players to give you permission releasing the replays. If some refuse, don't release those players replays but if some agree, please do release theirs. Some replays are better than no replays at all.


They made a mistake by claiming that you can be DDoS'ed by a replay file, they admit that now. Actually I'm not even sure what they are claiming can be done through a replay file, they're not saying.


Once can figure out the character name and code of a player and then spam whispers and invites etc to harass him during the play. Obviously, you can't be "DDoSed by a replay file"
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
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