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On July 31 2011 14:09 TenthGear wrote:
The solution is to make first person VODs of each player with the production tab left open!
Doesn't need commentary or anything. Its not an ideal situation, but it is a compromise. It gets around the reasons they have listed for not releasing the replays, and it would at least partially satisfy the majority of the player base. They could even make them only available to paying members and therefore make money off it.
this might actually work. but i still hate you MLG for taking away these replays. IMMvp vs DongRaeGu on champ bracket and ill never get to analyze it on my own.
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Meh, not as big of a deal as everybody is making it. I don't see people whine about GSL/NASL/etc replays. Sure, replays are nice, but they were an unusual (yet great) feature in the first place.
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On July 31 2011 09:07 bucckevin wrote:
I'm very late to the party but this is just MLG's lame attempt to sell more VOD passes.
Replays > VODS.
its an issue with chat spam, blizzard is looking into it and we might get replays regardless. There is no reason to presume they are some evel organization haunting for our money.
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On July 31 2011 14:17 OneStepAbove wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 14:09 TenthGear wrote:
The solution is to make first person VODs of each player with the production tab left open!
Doesn't need commentary or anything. Its not an ideal situation, but it is a compromise. It gets around the reasons they have listed for not releasing the replays, and it would at least partially satisfy the majority of the player base. They could even make them only available to paying members and therefore make money off it. This would be a VERY good compromise.
Seconding this. I'd imagine it'd be fairly easy to do, though the uploading of all of those could be a nightmare.
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I would do very terrible things to get the Ganzi vs MVP replays.
best series of the whole tournament so far, Ret vs Rain a close second.
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On July 31 2011 14:28 Haydin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 14:17 OneStepAbove wrote:On July 31 2011 14:09 TenthGear wrote:
The solution is to make first person VODs of each player with the production tab left open!
Doesn't need commentary or anything. Its not an ideal situation, but it is a compromise. It gets around the reasons they have listed for not releasing the replays, and it would at least partially satisfy the majority of the player base. They could even make them only available to paying members and therefore make money off it. This would be a VERY good compromise. Seconding this. I'd imagine it'd be fairly easy to do, though the uploading of all of those could be a nightmare.
Laughing so hard over here. Even with no commenting doing this for all replays would be astronomically expensive.
It's also still a lot worse than just getting the actual replays.
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On July 31 2011 04:16 N3rV[Green] wrote:My god people DO complain about absolutely everything these days. I could care less whether the replays are released or not cause I don't take this game nearly that serious, and most of you guys shouldn't either.[*Editor's note: No reasoning supplied, apart from a detailing of one's own desires and level of interest in replays]
Yep, your subjective perspective and desires are superior to all other's. * Classic egomaniac.
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On July 31 2011 07:33 MLG_Lee wrote:
Folks, no one said we were going to "sell replays to casters"--we said we would work with casters we trust and like to produce VoDs.
Monetizing in this context means serving ads.
...so, again, they confirm they won't release replays solely to sell more HQ passes?
At least they haven't stooped to the level of showing ads mid-game! (prays this doesn't give them any ideas...)
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On July 31 2011 14:41 leova wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 07:33 MLG_Lee wrote:
Folks, no one said we were going to "sell replays to casters"--we said we would work with casters we trust and like to produce VoDs.
Monetizing in this context means serving ads. ...so, again, they confirm they won't release replays solely to sell more HQ passes? At least they haven't stooped to the level of showing ads mid-game! (prays this doesn't give them any ideas...)
You're finding it difficult to comprehend the very basic English that he used. Re-read what he said.
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On July 31 2011 14:45 arbitrageur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 14:41 leova wrote:On July 31 2011 07:33 MLG_Lee wrote:
Folks, no one said we were going to "sell replays to casters"--we said we would work with casters we trust and like to produce VoDs.
Monetizing in this context means serving ads. ...so, again, they confirm they won't release replays solely to sell more HQ passes? At least they haven't stooped to the level of showing ads mid-game! (prays this doesn't give them any ideas...) You're finding it difficult to comprehend the very basic English that he used. Re-read what he said.
Please stop being so hateful. It's destroying my vibes man.
On topic, I'm very sad that MLG is retracting their replays. I will never again have the chance to steal players' builds. I think that it's doing much more bad than good, but who am I to tell a guy who has pros feeding him what they want and don't want. I'm very sad and wish they could bring it back though. MLG has a reputation of being fucking awesome coming to fan feedback, so I have high hopes for a revival of the replay tradition.
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On July 31 2011 14:24 aksfjh wrote:
Meh, not as big of a deal as everybody is making it. I don't see people whine about GSL/NASL/etc replays. Sure, replays are nice, but they were an unusual (yet great) feature in the first place.
GSL NASL
THEY CASTED ALL THE GAME
BUT WE MISS A TON OF GAME IN MLG (openbracket etc.)
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On July 31 2011 16:07 nOondn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 14:24 aksfjh wrote:
Meh, not as big of a deal as everybody is making it. I don't see people whine about GSL/NASL/etc replays. Sure, replays are nice, but they were an unusual (yet great) feature in the first place. GSL NASL THEY CASTED ALL THE GAME BUT WE MISS A TON OF GAME IN MLG (openbracket etc.)
MLG is held over one weekend whereas GSL and NASL both took >1 month to finish. Also, I'm sure none, if any, of the Code A qualifiers were broadcasted. I think the only equivalent would be Dreamhack, but even they didn't cast the BYOC tournament.
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Even if all the other tourny's didnt release replays, from a fans point of view, the fact that MLG did made them better.
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On July 31 2011 14:28 Headnoob wrote:
I would do very terrible things to get the Ganzi vs MVP replays.
best series of the whole tournament so far, Ret vs Rain a close second.
I would buy 2 more Gold Membership to get all MVP and Boxer replays :<
Dooo want.
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MLG does something very minor and now people get mad at them? They are not doing this for money in the first place, they are doing it for a smoother MLG/Player experience. Everyone here who is getting mad at MLG is basically saying, "I want this, but they won't let me have it, they are therefore evil." This is what kindergarten children think. You have plenty of other places to get replays from if you want to analyze a pro. MLG was really the only tourny to actually release replays, now they don't. That doesn't make them an evil monster it just means they changed something. If you are going to get mad at MLG for not having replays, then go harass NASL, GSL, DH, etc to release theirs. I bet you they will give you almost the exact same answer as MLG now, it is for the players protection.
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Yeah but korean replays are pretty rare, thats why people want these
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Being able to see the replays would have been amazing. I really wanted to see the new SlayerSvZerg marine/blue flame hellion drop build.
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On July 31 2011 16:33 graph1k wrote:
MLG does something very minor and now people get mad at them? They are not doing this for money in the first place, they are doing it for a smoother MLG/Player experience. Everyone here who is getting mad at MLG is basically saying, "I want this, but they won't let me have it, they are therefore evil." This is what kindergarten children think. You have plenty of other places to get replays from if you want to analyze a pro. MLG was really the only tourny to actually release replays, now they don't. That doesn't make them an evil monster it just means they changed something. If you are going to get mad at MLG for not having replays, then go harass NASL, GSL, DH, etc to release theirs. I bet you they will give you almost the exact same answer as MLG now, it is for the players protection.
You obviously haven't read the thread have you.
There are better ways to deal with the spam issue. Why punish the fans when there are alternatives?
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On July 31 2011 16:12 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 16:07 nOondn wrote:On July 31 2011 14:24 aksfjh wrote:
Meh, not as big of a deal as everybody is making it. I don't see people whine about GSL/NASL/etc replays. Sure, replays are nice, but they were an unusual (yet great) feature in the first place. GSL NASL THEY CASTED ALL THE GAME BUT WE MISS A TON OF GAME IN MLG (openbracket etc.) MLG is held over one weekend whereas GSL and NASL both took >1 month to finish. Also, I'm sure none, if any, of the Code A qualifiers were broadcasted. I think the only equivalent would be Dreamhack, but even they didn't cast the BYOC tournament. Code A qualifiers is not really comparable at all. Dreamhack was pretty impressive in that it casted pretty much every match in the group stage onward (a lot more groups than MLG) since they had like 5 streams, oh and they also released all the replays. The BYOC at DH isn't as comparable to the open bracket at MLG either, since there are only 16 pool play spots at MLG. The open bracket becomes completely stacked with pros, at Dreamhack pretty much all the pros are seeded into the group stage, and there was a BYOC stream if you wanted to see it.
Anyways, he is right and the fact remains that in all of those tournaments it will possible to see every single match. After this announcement there are a lot of great matches that we will never get to see from the open bracket, since not everything will be casted even if they do hand out the replay pack to a few casters.
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