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SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
July 31 2011 20:27 GMT
#861
That's to bad, I'd really like to get my hands on the Boxer vs Rain game 1
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Narcotic
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
July 31 2011 20:28 GMT
#862
pretty bad news.
Narcotic
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
July 31 2011 20:28 GMT
#863
On August 01 2011 05:27 SilverPotato wrote:
That's to bad, I'd really like to get my hands on the Boxer vs Rain game 1

yeah! so badly!
Marsupian
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands455 Posts
July 31 2011 20:34 GMT
#864
I wan't to see all games for Ret and steal all his gosu builds .

btw. It's not like you can't get you hands on replays from these players anyway T.T (or did MLG provide all the players with a new account just for mlg?)
cyanide66
Profile Joined September 2010
137 Posts
July 31 2011 20:38 GMT
#865
MLG just wants more people to get their gold membership.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
July 31 2011 20:45 GMT
#866
On August 01 2011 01:31 Caphe wrote:
This will happen sooner or later, just a matter of time. Beside reasons that MLG stated, not releasing replay is a way to protect players from being over studied thus make the game less fun.
In BW, no replays of any tourney in Korea was released( not counting the early years ). This will make copy a build or study a player much harder thus make games that played in tournies seems more prestige and more fun.

This sucks for the mass but I believe most pro are welcoming this.

Nobody would mind if this was the stated reason. The problem is this isn't the reason why they're saying.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
July 31 2011 20:46 GMT
#867
a Pox upon your house MLG!
mumpfel
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany52 Posts
July 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#868
I think the problem with not releasing the replays is, that they are showing only a small percentage of the played games on stream. When GSL does not release their replays that is not a big deal because they do stream any single game. So i guess it would be better to a) publish the replays or b) make a system with less games, so that it is possible to show more of them on stream.

It just feels bad when you see games like Naniwa vs IdrA and others in the Bracket but there is no chance for you to watch them...
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
July 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#869
On August 01 2011 06:07 mumpfel wrote:
I think the problem with not releasing the replays is, that they are showing only a small percentage of the played games on stream. When GSL does not release their replays that is not a big deal because they do stream any single game. So i guess it would be better to a) publish the replays or b) make a system with less games, so that it is possible to show more of them on stream.

It just feels bad when you see games like Naniwa vs IdrA and others in the Bracket but there is no chance for you to watch them...
Exactly, we just missed Naniwa vs Idra and Ganzi vs Ret, those are huge matches -_- And the only way we'll get to see them is a husky cast or some crap.
Exstasy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
July 31 2011 22:36 GMT
#870
If i had those MVP vs DRG Reps My TvZ would be instantly amazing.
I'm pissed off MLG ¬¬
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
July 31 2011 22:39 GMT
#871
i have the feeling that they will release the replays after 1 week. MLG may realize inst a good move to not release them.
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Exstasy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
July 31 2011 22:41 GMT
#872
On August 01 2011 07:39 EliteReplay wrote:
i have the feeling that they will release the replays after 1 week. MLG may realize inst a good move to not release them.

annoyingly, I doubt that, They'll probably go through with their plan to send them to Casters to make Vods.
And Vods just aren't the same =/
Aven
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands392 Posts
July 31 2011 23:18 GMT
#873
I'm going to be pretty bummed if they don't release the replays for this MLG as I feel it has been the MLG with the highest level of play so far
royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
July 31 2011 23:20 GMT
#874
They are giving the replay packs to their casting core as part of the payment... they cast they get views they make money.
Shalenden
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 23:28:59
July 31 2011 23:24 GMT
#875
Not releasing the replays after the event is over, shows that they just want money for it. Look on any replay site and you can get the same details as you get from MLG replays. Silly excuse to say that you dont want to release the replays while thousands of others released replays aswell, and if it really were that big of a deal blizzard would fix(tm) it. In my eyes a bit sneaky to use this argument to get money out of it through ads, dont go and hide behind some silly excuse because it looks pretty obvious to me...

Edit funfact: It seems that someone (perhaps himself) already released some of ToD's replays, perhaps it's because it doesn't bother him?
The world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
July 31 2011 23:47 GMT
#876
Why do people take the fact that MLG is not releasing Anaheim replays and automatically jump to the conclusion that the reasoning behind it is to make more money? Some of the conspiracy theories that are going on in this thread are just mind numbing. Are people really this incapable of reading?

It's clear that the decision was made for multiple reasons, one of which being to help prevent interference of Anaheim and future events. They never claimed that this would somehow solve the problem. They only stated their suspicions that it could potentially be a liability and they'd rather err on the side of caution in this case.

Also, I don't understand where people are making the connection between not releasing replays and selling more HQ passes. The two things literally have nothing to do with each other.

Honestly, is this really a surprise to people? This was discussed literally right after Columbus and Lee stated clearly back then (I think it was on one of DJWheat's shows) that they were looking into the replay issue after the problems they encountered during that event...

If you want to blame anyone for ruining your replay-viewing experience, blame the idiots that are being dicks with their stupid spamming of the players and casters, which made MLG suspect replays as a liability in the first place. MLG is just attempting to respond to an existing problem to the best of their ability and make the best of a unfavorable situation. I don't understand how people are expecting them to just sit on their asses just because it MIGHT not be an effective solution.

I get that many of you aren't happy with this decision, but they are going to be releasing the replays to casters so most likely you will be able to see the games through the casts. I know it's not the same thing, but try to be a little less judgmental. Their decisions don't really fall outside the realm of reason given the situation.
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
July 31 2011 23:49 GMT
#877
On August 01 2011 08:47 LegendaryZ wrote:
Why do people take the fact that MLG is not releasing Anaheim replays and automatically jump to the conclusion that the reasoning behind it is to make more money? Some of the conspiracy theories that are going on in this thread are just mind numbing. Are people really this incapable of reading?

It's clear that the decision was made for multiple reasons, one of which being to help prevent interference of Anaheim and future events. They never claimed that this would somehow solve the problem. They only stated their suspicions that it could potentially be a liability and they'd rather err on the side of caution in this case.

Also, I don't understand where people are making the connection between not releasing replays and selling more HQ passes. The two things literally have nothing to do with each other.

Honestly, is this really a surprise to people? This was discussed literally right after Columbus and Lee stated clearly back then (I think it was on one of DJWheat's shows) that they were looking into the replay issue after the problems they encountered during that event...

If you want to blame anyone for ruining your replay-viewing experience, blame the idiots that are being dicks with their stupid spamming of the players and casters, which made MLG suspect replays as a liability in the first place. MLG is just attempting to respond to an existing problem to the best of their ability and make the best of a unfavorable situation. I don't understand how people are expecting them to just sit on their asses just because it MIGHT not be an effective solution.

I get that many of you aren't happy with this decision, but they are going to be releasing the replays to casters so most likely you will be able to see the games through the casts. I know it's not the same thing, but try to be a little less judgmental. Their decisions don't really fall outside the realm of reason given the situation.


You didn't read the thread....did you?
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 00:01:29
July 31 2011 23:52 GMT
#878
On August 01 2011 08:49 Dubpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:47 LegendaryZ wrote:
Why do people take the fact that MLG is not releasing Anaheim replays and automatically jump to the conclusion that the reasoning behind it is to make more money? Some of the conspiracy theories that are going on in this thread are just mind numbing. Are people really this incapable of reading?

It's clear that the decision was made for multiple reasons, one of which being to help prevent interference of Anaheim and future events. They never claimed that this would somehow solve the problem. They only stated their suspicions that it could potentially be a liability and they'd rather err on the side of caution in this case.

Also, I don't understand where people are making the connection between not releasing replays and selling more HQ passes. The two things literally have nothing to do with each other.

Honestly, is this really a surprise to people? This was discussed literally right after Columbus and Lee stated clearly back then (I think it was on one of DJWheat's shows) that they were looking into the replay issue after the problems they encountered during that event...

If you want to blame anyone for ruining your replay-viewing experience, blame the idiots that are being dicks with their stupid spamming of the players and casters, which made MLG suspect replays as a liability in the first place. MLG is just attempting to respond to an existing problem to the best of their ability and make the best of a unfavorable situation. I don't understand how people are expecting them to just sit on their asses just because it MIGHT not be an effective solution.

I get that many of you aren't happy with this decision, but they are going to be releasing the replays to casters so most likely you will be able to see the games through the casts. I know it's not the same thing, but try to be a little less judgmental. Their decisions don't really fall outside the realm of reason given the situation.


You didn't read the thread....did you?


All I read was a bunch of whining and accusing MLG of money grubbing and ripping off customers. If there's something else in the 40+ pages of actual substance rather than ridiculous conjecture, please feel free to point me to it.

Admittedly, I'm a bit sick of all of the MLG hating at this point when it seems pretty clear to me that they've done nothing but repeatedly try to satisfy what's all too often a ridiculously ungrateful fanbase for at least the past 3 events. I'm all for keeping companies honest with criticism, but it's really starting to get a little bit ridiculous.
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
August 01 2011 00:05 GMT
#879
On August 01 2011 08:52 LegendaryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:49 Dubpace wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:47 LegendaryZ wrote:
Why do people take the fact that MLG is not releasing Anaheim replays and automatically jump to the conclusion that the reasoning behind it is to make more money? Some of the conspiracy theories that are going on in this thread are just mind numbing. Are people really this incapable of reading?

It's clear that the decision was made for multiple reasons, one of which being to help prevent interference of Anaheim and future events. They never claimed that this would somehow solve the problem. They only stated their suspicions that it could potentially be a liability and they'd rather err on the side of caution in this case.

Also, I don't understand where people are making the connection between not releasing replays and selling more HQ passes. The two things literally have nothing to do with each other.

Honestly, is this really a surprise to people? This was discussed literally right after Columbus and Lee stated clearly back then (I think it was on one of DJWheat's shows) that they were looking into the replay issue after the problems they encountered during that event...

If you want to blame anyone for ruining your replay-viewing experience, blame the idiots that are being dicks with their stupid spamming of the players and casters, which made MLG suspect replays as a liability in the first place. MLG is just attempting to respond to an existing problem to the best of their ability and make the best of a unfavorable situation. I don't understand how people are expecting them to just sit on their asses just because it MIGHT not be an effective solution.

I get that many of you aren't happy with this decision, but they are going to be releasing the replays to casters so most likely you will be able to see the games through the casts. I know it's not the same thing, but try to be a little less judgmental. Their decisions don't really fall outside the realm of reason given the situation.


You didn't read the thread....did you?


All I read was a bunch of whining and accusing MLG of money grubbing and ripping off customers. If there's something else in the 40+ pages of actual substance rather than ridiculous conjecture, please feel free to point me to it.

Admittedly, I'm a bit sick of all of the MLG hating at this point when it seems pretty clear to me that they've done nothing but repeatedly try to satisfy what's all too often a ridiculously ungrateful fanbase for at least the past 3 events. I'm all for keeping companies honest with criticism, but it's really starting to get a little bit ridiculous.


On July 30 2011 07:46 MLG_Lee wrote:
A couple points of clarification:

5) Releasing the replays to casters that we work with and trust is the least risky way to get SOME of this content out. I know it's not everything that everyone wants. At the end of the day though, we can fund events because we can monetize content. Keep in mind that we lose a tremendous amount of money every event. Our productions are not cheap. Sat trucks alone are a solid six figure number.



It is at least partially about making money. Do your research before you post.

Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
August 01 2011 00:10 GMT
#880
its not like gsl releases any replays, and we dont get all up in arms about that. so why should we get mad at mlg when theyve done this for quite awhile. yeah it sucks but doesnt mean they are evil.
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