Yea, timezones fucked me up. All I was really able to see were the last games of each day. Not nearly as close to the previous MLG experience, when I could watch the reps of previous games that I'd missed.

Get cracking removing those codes or whatever has to be "done" to get those replays out, MLG. The community is watching you, hoping you do the right thing.

Rossi

Australia59 Posts

August 01 2011 03:48 GMT

#902

i love hearing about all these awesome games i missed out on and in order to watch them im going to have to go through VODS with a caster i may or may not like where i will have to spend a frustratingly long time tracking back and forth if i want to learn anything. Not to mention all the threads popping up with VOD issues. To watch the 50 - 100+ games we missed out and to expect it all to be VODS is just incredibly inefficient.

Listen to the people. We want replays.

Tektos

Australia1321 Posts

August 01 2011 03:59 GMT

#903

I am offended.

... Not much else I can really say, this sucks.

rave[wcr]

United States1166 Posts

August 01 2011 04:11 GMT

#904

i wish TWO Poxes upon your house MLG! We Want The Replays!

Joseph123

Bulgaria1144 Posts

August 01 2011 04:14 GMT

#905

wow the good protoss games from MLG weren't streamed
Naniwa vs idra
Huk vs sjow
sheth vs naniwa
How am i going to watch that games? You are totally making fun of all protoss players and no i dont care about some youtube caster

Drium

United States888 Posts

August 01 2011 04:15 GMT

#906

We should just blame Blizzard for letting people drag you into chat channels while in busy mode.

quantumslip

United States188 Posts

August 01 2011 04:16 GMT

#907

On August 01 2011 12:33 TheWinks wrote:

Show nested quote +

There is no problem on Blizzard's end.

well they could have been better about putting in b.net to block the invite/chat spam; saw someone on destiny's stream one time repeatedly inviting him to a party. very annoying. it is also sad that can also somehow cause lag. there should definitely be a blocking feature to prevent that.

if blizzard puts that in and/or modifies the replay format, then MLG will have no excuse to not release the replays. hopefully they read/see what's going on and implement it

TheWinks

United States572 Posts

August 01 2011 04:25 GMT

#908

On August 01 2011 13:16 quantumslip wrote:well they could have been better about putting in b.net to block the invite/chat spam; saw someone on destiny's stream one time repeatedly inviting him to a party. very annoying. it is also sad that can also somehow cause lag. there should definitely be a blocking feature to prevent that.

if blizzard puts that in and/or modifies the replay format, then MLG will have no excuse to not release the replays. hopefully they read/see what's going on and implement it

B.Net chat management could be better, absolutely. However, there is no problem with the replay format. Having the B.Net profile information in the replay is a good thing.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

August 01 2011 04:54 GMT

#909

Now we wait to see what MLG is going to do for us.

Mylkyjo

Australia110 Posts

August 01 2011 04:58 GMT

#910

So disappointed... I was really looking forward to seeing some Open Bracket action.... and stealing builds!

bakedace

United States672 Posts

August 01 2011 05:01 GMT

#911

yes, I was really looking forward to these replays ......

Phaded

Australia579 Posts

August 01 2011 05:04 GMT

#912

What Lee has essentially come out and said is that his team has managed to find the 3-4 digit character codes required to add a player to your friends list in Stacraft 2, something that was previously thought to be impossible because the data did not exist.

Until this claim is verified with proof of concept to a trusted source (i.e. R1CH) , this claim that the replay can be used for denial of service holds no weight and replays pose zero risk to MLG.

There are easier ways to add players onto friends list to spam them than replays.

meursault

United States59 Posts

August 01 2011 07:22 GMT

#913

It is obvious that restricting replay release is more about monetization than anything else. What they should to is give Gold members access to replays or even create a higher level of support than Gold with replay access if necessary ($50-$100 per year). They could make you sign a TOS that says you aren't allowed to share them or make vods out of them without their permission and sue any replay site or caster that violates the TOS.

I kind of wonder if the recent in-game linking of replays by blizzard has something to do this and Blizzard and MLG are discussing replay monetization options for Heart of the Swarm. While replay monetization would be disappointing it would be better than no options for access to tournament replays.

Phenny

Australia1435 Posts

August 01 2011 08:06 GMT

#914

Yeh, I'd be a million times more willing to pay for replays than for VODs.

ander

Canada403 Posts

August 01 2011 08:17 GMT

#915

Screw VODs. There are a ton of games not casted that i want to watch. I really don't want to have to watch these games casted by husky or HD. Withholding this replays clearly is going to do nothing, the public has access to pro player character codes regardless of the replays being released or not. What a joke

stevarius

United States1394 Posts

August 01 2011 08:59 GMT

#916

When I first saw this article, all I could think of is an atrocity committed against competitive fans of the scene. I died quite a bit inside when they didn't even cast DRG vs Tyler that they even scheduled to appear. That was before I even encountered the news of them choosing not to release the replays.

We're being completely screwed by a service we practically expect. I already had to dedicate a lot of effort to avoid watching Husky cast(my personal opinion of him is bad, etc.). I would hate to see the replays I actually want to study to be released, only to be casted again. I don't care that people are potentially going to see the games as VODs given that it's extremely hard to watch those games as a educational experience. When we factor in the insane multitasking ability of many of these players we seek replays from, we have to account for the fact that so many key moments in these games will go unseen and only watching them through a replay is going to break them down to us.

Sad panda.

zendy

Germany13 Posts

August 01 2011 09:02 GMT

#917

I understand that MLG wants to generate revenue from this content - this is ok in my opinion.
But they need to find a suitable way to publish this wealth of good games for the community.
They should not ignore that international viewers from other timezones can´t stay up the whole night to watch live streams. In addition only a minority of all games were casted.

I´m from Germany and I would pay for the replays of MLG Anaheim.
I loved the replay pack from MLG Columbus.

Cuiu

Germany410 Posts

August 01 2011 09:13 GMT

#918

so mlg is now over.
give us the replays

Shucks!

United States118 Posts

August 01 2011 09:16 GMT

#919

Wait so MLG is basically saying that because you can find a player's bnet name and identifier from a replay, it is unsafe for them to release replays?

I understand that MLG is a business, but just be fucking honest, you're doing it to generate extra revenue. No one would blame you for saying you needed to cover costs, we all love the content MLG provides, but this is rank corporate bullshit you're trying to pull here. Anyone with a will to fucking get someone's bnet ID is going to do it regardless of whether or not its in the form of a replay released from MLG, much less from previously released MLG replays. And then to lie about it and call it a DDoS is completely ridiculous. Losing faith in MLG honesty.