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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:23 OPL3SA2 wrote: DjWheat is there any chance milikis will be on today's show? He said Milkis and another person will be saying what they know of the situation, I believe. | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:24 OPL3SA2 wrote: Did you just say you didn't want e-sports to join the real world Did i read that correctly <shrug> owned <shrug> | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:22 zeru wrote: Wrong. Has been growing for 15 years and has not become mainstream, yet stayed extremely awesome. And that it will keep doing. Its been a road full of ups and downs, as far as I know (from watching LO3) it was in a decline until the release of SC2 (I think the fighting scene was growing though). A successful business is always growing, otherwise they are not successful (it's why coca cola still airs ads despite being huge). If Esports does not eventually grow to be mainstream, then that means that it is declining. | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:12 Midgetman101 wrote: Once again, another misinformed user. TSL pays fucking salaries god and you make fun of others for being misinformed I wasnt making fun of other being misinformed, I was complaining about others being retarded. Also that doesnt take anything away from my argument, good job finding one thing that wasnt correct in my post, I fixed it, my argument still stands and since you read my post and only replied about the salary issue it goes to show you got no argument. User was warned for this post | ||
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:24 JinDesu wrote: He said Milkis and another person will be saying what they know of the situation, I believe. Yea Milkis and Alex Garfield, the president of EG. | ||
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DBOWNIZZ
United States66 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:19 AlBundy wrote: Hide nested quote - On July 22 2011 06:18 SafeAsCheese wrote: On July 22 2011 06:17 AlBundy wrote: On July 22 2011 06:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: It's funny because in the real world this is called business in e-sports it's called drama Real world is rotten to the core. I don't want esports to become like that. 1. Esports becomes like real world business 2. Esports dies pick one 3. Esports does not become mainstream And thus we embark on the slow painful road to 2. Sorry but if ANYTHING this is actually making esports more popular. Even though I hate to admit it but drama and excitement is what makes alot of sports in general popular. More people have the interests of where players are going and interested in the players outside of SC2 gives people more to observe and obsesse over. | ||
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zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
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ZergX
France436 Posts
+1 ! Congratz EG : ) | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:23 Fionn wrote: In the end, all this will spur is Korean teams or a higher power to start an organization that outlaws this. A lot of people didn't want a KESPA in SC2, but they've tried that and this shows that they need at least some sort of KESPA to stop things from happening. I hope that this is the only time something like this happens, but I wouldn't be shocked if EG tries to talk to someone like DongRaeGu when he comes to MLG. Hopefully the Korean teams don't see EG as every foreigner team in the world and aren't afraid to send their players until this new contract/SC2 Korea organization is created. Could be a blessing in disguise in a way. Hopefully that is the case as I would hate to see a big name player snatched up in the near future. Good thing it is only PuMa. | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:26 Xivsa wrote: Yea Milkis and Alex Garfield, the president of EG. That's great thanks marcus | ||
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kovac
Sweden123 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:24 Morrisson wrote: ... please, stop, you're embarassign yourself. Trust create contractual obligations, especially if you can provide proofs and shows this was a two-way relationship ( food/training on one side, wearing the TSL tag on the other is more than enough...) There more that 1 case where no contracts was ever written YET you can have breach of contracts, dol, etc.... so he could never leave as long as they fed him is that what Im reading?? | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. | ||
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question
Czech Republic509 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:26 DBOWNIZZ wrote: Sorry but if ANYTHING this is actually making esports more popular. Even though I hate to admit it but drama and excitement is what makes alot of sports in general popular. More people have the interests of where players are going and interested in the players outside of SC2 gives people more to observe and obsesse over. Ofc not. Esport is still a niche. It is not because 1 company within this niche decides to do something unethical it suddenly becomes a popular sport amongst the masses... | ||
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Darkong
United Kingdom418 Posts
E-sports has already had far more serious incidents, the Broodwar match fixing scandal being the major one, this is peanuts in comparison and should just show teams that they need to have their legal shit in order. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 kovac wrote: so he could never leave as long as they fed him is that what Im reading?? not to mention no end date, so the team technically owns the player forever, TRUST bro TRUST u wanna move out? sorry that's breaking the TRUST contract, u cant do it | ||
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DBOWNIZZ
United States66 Posts
Imagine of some team just stole idra from EG. I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. Actually nobody can steal Idra from EG cause Evil Genius's actually contract there players, and I'm more then sure that it states in there contract that they can't join another team. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:26 MrDudeMan wrote: Its been a road full of ups and downs, as far as I know (from watching LO3) it was in a decline until the release of SC2 (I think the fighting scene was growing though). A successful business is always growing, otherwise they are not successful (it's why coca cola still airs ads despite being huge). If Esports does not eventually grow to be mainstream, then that means that it is declining. coca cola grows by acquiring other businesses now. a few million on advertising doesn't really affect their growth anymore, it just maintains their image in first world countries. but that's off topic. esports isn't a single corporation. it's an entire market. NBA ratings might be down, but that doesn't mean basketball is dying. it's still growing in europe and china. same thing with esports. just because the FPS scene was dying doesn't mean esports as a whole was declining. | ||
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Darkong
United Kingdom418 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:23 Docmedical wrote: Yeah bro, Esports just became professional when SC2 was released. /sarcasm I never said, nor intoned that, try understanding what I'm saying rather than jumping onto one line and taking it out of context. | ||
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Morrisson
289 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 kovac wrote: so he could never leave as long as they fed him is that what Im reading?? No... I'm just staying that at least discussing clearly and maybe finding a way to compensate for his departure would have avoided all the Drama. And that if TSL was to go to (at least some) courts, they could very well requalitfy their relation with Puma as a classical e-sport contract... ( 1 or 2 year duration, etc...) Nothing more. My point is that there was a contract between the parties and it was broken. What both parties decide to do after is something else. | ||
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