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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:24 mango_destroyer wrote: Well I am glad DJWheat is trying to make it fair. It would be painful to watch if it was only EG`s side presented. Well, It would still be pretty fair, since TSL already presented their side. If anything, isn't it unfair that we are all arguing in this thread without hearing EG's side first? | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
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DBOWNIZZ
United States66 Posts
Sorry but if ANYTHING this is actually making esports more popular. Even though I hate to admit it but drama and excitement is what makes alot of sports in general popular. More people have the interests of where players are going and interested in the players outside of SC2 gives people more to observe and obsesse over. Ofc not. Esport is still a niche. It is not because 1 company within this niche decides to do something unethical it suddenly becomes a popular sport amongst the masses... Ok and when did I say JUST THIS ONE INCIDENT IS MAKING SC2 POPULAR???? Never all I said was the drama in general brings more attention to the sport, period. I hate it but its true | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 Za7oX wrote: Imagine of some team just stole idra from EG. I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. Sure he will, but when he had no contract with Idra, he can only blame himself | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:30 Morrisson wrote: No... I'm just staying that at least discussing clearly and maybe finding a way to compensate for his departure would have avoided all the Drama. And that if TSL was to go to (at least some) courts, they could very well requalitfy their relation with Puma as a classical e-sport contract... Nothing more. My point is that there was a contract between the parties and it was broken. What both parties decide to do after is something else. No, they could not. Assuming your idea of a verbal contract based on trust is correct. The contract would be "You represent us at tournaments, we feed/shelter/train you". If this were the case puma said "I'm no longer playing for you and as such I am moving out". Thus end of contract. It would be different if Puma were to demand being allowed to stay in the team house. | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:26 JayPower wrote: I wasnt making fun of other being misinformed, I was complaining about others being retarded. Also that doesnt take anything away from my argument, good job finding one thing that wasnt correct in my post, I fixed it, my argument still stands and since you read my post and only replied about the salary issue it goes to show you got no argument. Jesus your post reeks of ignorance, Im gonna quote you "Most people on TL are so retarded it actually makes me angry now." You sir are in this category for being uninformed and posting something when you are uninformed. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Incontrol makes a problem of TB changing scenes to make money, now his manager acquires a top player on the most unethical way possible. ---> Incontrol telling on every podcast how EG is the best business in the world and that they did nothing wrong. Pathetic. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:30 Thrax wrote: Well, It would still be pretty fair, since TSL already presented their side. If anything, isn't it unfair that we are all arguing in this thread without hearing EG's side first? not really. a lot of people will be getting their first exposure to the details of the story from the show. you can't assume everyone who tunes into djWheat's shows have read every single page of every single thread on TL. | ||
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InstantKarma
United States205 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 Za7oX wrote: Imagine of some team just stole idra from EG. I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. I'm sure he would but it shouldn't matter how butthurt a team is when a player leaves. The players should always come first and if they can put food on the table by joining a different team then that is all that matters. | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 Za7oX wrote: Imagine of some team just stole idra from EG. I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. How can you possibly make such a poor comparison? You talk like you know the relationship between Idra and EG, maybe he's on a contract, who knows? Read the OP, PuMa wasn't on a contract and appartantly EG is willing to pay PuMa so much more salary than TSL that he decided to leave the place he "grew up", the coaching that trained him and his teammembers/friends. Goes to show how well TSL took care of PuMa. | ||
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DBOWNIZZ
United States66 Posts
No... I'm just staying that at least discussing clearly and maybe finding a way to compensate for his departure would have avoided all the Drama. And that if TSL was to go to (at least some) courts, they could very well requalitfy their relation with Puma as a classical e-sport contract... ( 1 or 2 year duration, etc...) Nothing more. My point is that there was a contract between the parties and it was broken. What both parties decide to do after is something else. Morrisson did you fail to read the update???? The owner of TSL already said there was NO contract, I repeat NO contract for his time there at TSL. He also stated that its all based on trust and faith. | ||
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Hatorade
299 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:27 Za7oX wrote: Imagine of some team just stole idra from EG. I'm sure scoots would be pretty pissed. How would some team steal idra? Would they come to his house with a gun and stuff him in a van? Or do you mean Imagine if Idra decided to leave EG for another team by his own decision. In which case yes scoots would likely not be happy, but he would have no one to blame except himself or idra for that. Puma decided to leave to play for a different team, he was not stolen by any means. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:33 Koshi wrote: Just so lame that again something controversial happens and that once again EG is the center of it and is lying about it. Or how they call it "not telling the whole story". Incontrol makes a problem of TB changing scenes to make money, now his manager acquires a top player on the most unethical way possible. ---> Incontrol telling on every podcast how EG is the best business in the world and that they did nothing wrong. Pathetic. How can you say EG is lying about this? They haven't said anything yet. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
I can see this resulting in korean teams contracting their players ASAP especially TSL since they've lost so many already. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:34 Thrax wrote: How can you say EG is lying about this? They haven't said anything yet. EG claims that Puma approached them first regarding joining their team, but this is not true. As I know it, EG's owner contacted Puma first. Not only Puma, but other Korean players." And the first OP was obvious enough. Come on... | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:35 Koshi wrote: EG claims that Puma approached them first regarding joining their team, but this is not true. As I know it, EG's owner contacted Puma first. Not only Puma, but other Korean players." And the first OP was obvious enough. Come on... That was a quote by the TSL coach. It is in no way true as of yet because EG has not said a thing regarding this. | ||
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rbkl
772 Posts
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:33 Koshi wrote: Just so lame that again something controversial happens and that once again EG is the center of it and is lying about it. Or how they call it "not telling the whole story". Incontrol makes a problem of TB changing scenes to make money, now his manager acquires a top player on the most unethical way possible. ---> Incontrol telling on every podcast how EG is the best business in the world and that they did nothing wrong. Pathetic. Everything that needs to be said has been said. PuMa WASN'T on a contract. It doesnt who who aproached who, Puma got offered a contract/deal w/e you wanna call it. PuMa told his coach about it and left TSL. There's nothing else to say. Either EG has a shit ton of money and really wants Puma or TSL heavily under-paid Puma and there was no reason for him to stay in a team that doesnt respect his talent. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:35 Koshi wrote: EG claims that Puma approached them first regarding joining their team, but this is not true. As I know it, EG's owner contacted Puma first. Not only Puma, but other Korean players." And the first OP was obvious enough. Come on... that quote is actually from TSL coach and last i checked he's TSL coach and not apart of EG ^^ | ||
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DBOWNIZZ
United States66 Posts
Keep crying about it Koshi its business. Not only that but maybe just maybe Puma was WANTING to be on another team due to the departures of Trickster and FD....Maybe just Maybe PuMa wanted out just like them. | ||
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