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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:03 nihlon wrote: In that scenario TSL should be pissed at Puma, not EG. But TSL Loves Puma, and wants what's best for Puma. (releasing him at his wish). TSL should be pissed at EG for convincing him to leave behind TSL's back. | ||
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KeyHunt
United States218 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:59 djWHEAT wrote: Slasher and I approached both EG and Milkis. They had nothing to do with it. So I would like to take the credit for being business smart... not EG. And the ironic thing is that I was on vacation Sunday so WoC didn't air. I didn't know what I was going to do tonight on WoC (was actually gonna bring miniWHEAT on) then I woke up to this. Perfect timing if you ask me. You're all smart about this stuff and you know it haha. But also, what's good for you and omg.tv, is good for scoots, and EG...and so the circle of life lives on  . Should be a fun show that is for sure. | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:03 Butigroove wrote: Mr Wheat, don't listen to assholes like thsi who have no clue what is going on, and just want something to throw rotten tomatoes at. I can't beleive TSL is at all surprised that their TOP PLAYER WHO WAS NOT BEING PAID A SALARY left their team when he was offered one. Uh... no shit? Pay your fucking players and write out a contract if you don't want this to happen. People saying that house + food is a salary... yeah a B teamers salary lol ^motherfucking this Most people on TL are so retarded it actually makes me angry now. Everyone saw in the NASL how fucking good Puma is. I think on SoTG or another show or something artosis said before NASL how fucking good puma has been for so fucking long. Then a team that is already losing good players isn't going to pay their players decently?!! Like wtf, how are EG the "bad" guys in this. In my eyes it's more like TSL not paying a talented player like Puma and EG is like "oh come join us we would like to pay you decent money". Perhaps is TSL taking E-sports not as serious as EG. | ||
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Darkong
United Kingdom418 Posts
I'm soory, I know this guy is really well liked and everything, but that is just, at best naive and, at worst, incredibly stupid. E-sports is not that tiny little amateur outfit it was years ago, there's now serious money involved and big businesses getting into it and the teams involved need to grow up and start acting less like typical internet clans and more like professional sports teams. I feel for the guy in some ways because TSL has lost so many players recently and may not be around for all that long if they can't stop the bleeding, but if you're not having your players tied to some sort of deal to at least get compensation if they transfer to another team, you don't have grounds to complain when they up sticks and leave if they get a better offer from somewhere else. It would be great if all sports could operate on trust and a gentlemens agreement, but as soon as money is involved that is no longer the case and SC2 teams need to get up to speed on this pronto or this won't be the last time there's such an incident. | ||
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Nethermind
New Zealand445 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:57 djWHEAT wrote: Then don't watch MY terrible production and wait for the fucking text recap. Problem fucking solved. It seems to me that you take negative feedback in any way far too personally Wheat. Chill out; don't respond etc. For the 5 people that bag your show without any constructive feedback, there are tons who are fine with it that don't say boo. I can understand the sentiment however that EG have used this to promote the 'platform' they support (your shows). There is nothing wrong with EG doing that however; in fact it is the logical place to explain their position. In saying that, I feel that you need to accept that the connection of your shows to EG may inadvertently lead people to think of them (occasionally or consistently) as EG's productions, rather than your own. As we all know, nerd chills are fine. Nerd rage isn't. | ||
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common_cider
342 Posts
Puma pounces on offer from EG; Team Sad Life loses their top cat | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:08 QTIP. wrote: But TSL Loves Puma, and wants what's best for Puma. (releasing him at his wish). TSL should be pissed at EG for convincing him to leave behind TSL's back. I think TSL did respect Puma's decision, but afaik Puma came to the manager one day, said he'd be leaving, and left. There was nothing TSL could do but "release" him. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
never the less: GL puma EG and TSL :D | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:09 JayPower wrote: ^motherfucking this Most people on TL are so retarded it actually makes me angry now. Everyone saw in the NASL how fucking good Puma is. I think on SoTG or another show or something artosis said before NASL how fucking good puma has been for so fucking long. Then a team that is already losing good players isn't going to pay their players?!! Like wtf, how are EG the "bad" guys in this. In my eyes it's more like TSL not paying a talented player like Puma and EG is like "oh come join us we would like to pay you decent money". Perhaps is TSL taking E-sports not as serious as EG. Once again, another misinformed user. TSL pays fucking salaries god and you make fun of others for being misinformed | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
in e-sports it's called drama | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
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tooPrime
United States245 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:10 Nethermind wrote: It seems to me that you take negative feedback in any way far too personally Wheat. Chill out; don't respond etc. For the 5 people that bag your show without any constructive feedback, there are tons who are fine with it that don't say boo. I can understand the sentiment however that EG have used this to promote the 'platform' they support (your shows). There is nothing wrong with EG doing that however; in fact it is the logical place to explain their position. In saying that, I feel that you need to accept that the connection of your shows to EG may inadvertently lead people to think of them (occasionally or consistently) as EG's productions, rather than your own. As we all know, nerd chills are fine. Nerd rage isn't. Negative feedback? The dude was just being a dick. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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iXphobos
Germany1465 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:11 common_cider wrote: Headline should be: Puma pounces on offer from EG; Team Sad Life loses their top cat Well played, sir. Well played. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On July 22 2011 06:11 StyLeD wrote: I think TSL did respect Puma's decision, but afaik Puma came to the manager one day, said he'd be leaving, and left. There was nothing TSL could do but "release" him. Probably true ;( | ||
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OsmOse
Canada18 Posts
Don't want to loose players, sign a contract. Otherwise they are a free agent. Look at real sports. TSL needs to stop QQ and learn the business. | ||
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:56 djWHEAT wrote: Only I was the one advertising it and I'm not EG. I'm simply trying to use the networking I have to try to bring both sides to the table for a discussion. I hope people will realize (and I spoke intensely about this with Slasher) that I was NOT going to do the show if I could not present both sides (after a few recent happenings this seems to be the only way to be fair to all parties). Both Alex and Milkis agreed to discuss what they knew, etc. I wish everyone had this maturity level. Great job Wheat! The way things should be done. | ||
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AgentV
United States159 Posts
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
and the community response is what? YOUR KILLING ESPORT, YOU MEAN BUSNISS GUYZZZZ!! | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
I really hope Puma doesn't regress, though. I think it'll be hard/difficult to stay in Korea after this shitstorm, so I expect he'll move into the EG house. When/if this happens, hopefully for him he knows what he is getting into. Unlike FXO that had Moonan/Slog, I believe no EG member knows any Korean. It's going to be a tough, hard road head for Puma. | ||
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