EPTNASL Event Discussion Thread - Page 4
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Vinski
505 Posts
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
Since I'm assuming the same guy did both of those, hire him and do away with the horrible 30 minute intros. | ||
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Ultimate Weapon
United States132 Posts
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Particle
United States31 Posts
Sadly, I feel compelled to disclaim that I am no woman hater; I don't want to but I am saying it anyway. One last small bit of absurdity. Can Starcraft pros not summon enough mental fortitude to hold a microphone with their own hands, to their own face???? Do they really need an extra body there to hold the microphone? Is the NASL a welfare program for good looking women who know as much about SC as I do about quantum physics? ( I dropped general physics after a month ) | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:38 johnnyspazz wrote: yeah and while you're at it, change the name from NASL to MLG Dreamhack did it too... it's a trend that NASL has to keep up with to be up to par with other big tournaments | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:50 AndAgain wrote: The point is that a BO5 is always better than a BO3 if it's practical- which it was. The more games you play, the more likely the better player will win. And it wasn't all 0-2 loses, there were 1-2 loses. ok, say each match on average is 20 minutes, i think that's fair. 8 series, a potential of 24 games, that means a total of 8 hours of games for a bo3. if you change it to a bo5, there's a potential of 40 games, meaning 13 hours and 20 minutes. how is it practical to increase the amount of content by 66% when you're under a strict time schedule? | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:52 Vinski wrote: On the 9 weeks thing not only that but Open Tournament should be to get INTO the pool play not INTO the finals. Thats just freaking stupid. All that scheduling for the actual players for someone who didn't do that got into it from open and decides that he can take someone out in a simple bo3 Agreed, does the NHL or MBA play an entire season in order to enter the playoffs and play one game to advance in the tourney? No, they play the regular season out for seeding in the playoffs. IMO, this is exactly how NASL should work. They shouldn't be flying to a "finals", they should be flying to a playoff tournament. I would definitely suggest what the person I quoted mentioned. Use a round robin system (4 players in each group), to see who advances to the round of 8 (top 2 advance). Seems pretty obvious that this should have been the format from the start. Whoever decided that the so called "finals" should have a best of 3 opening round should have had people shouting at him about how wrong that decision was.... You don't fly people all the way across the world to play a single best of 3 . You just don't... Edit: To my last point... IN ANY COMPETITION, Not just Starcraft 2! | ||
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soulpoetry
United Kingdom177 Posts
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:58 johnnyspazz wrote: ok, say each match on average is 20 minutes, i think that's fair. 8 series, a potential of 24 games, that means a total of 8 hours of games for a bo3. if you change it to a bo5, there's a potential of 40 games, meaning 13 hours and 20 minutes. how is it practical to increase the amount of content by 66% when you're under a strict time schedule? well they have 3 days, they could of spaced out the games over the 3 days.. i mean the final day its only the the final match and 3rd and 4th place match.. i mean thats 2-3 hours max and 9hours of nothing. NASL was a let down.. | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:56 Particle wrote: One last small bit of absurdity. Can Starcraft pros not summon enough mental fortitude to hold a microphone with their own hands, to their own face???? Do they really need an extra body there to hold the microphone? Is the NASL a welfare program for good looking women who know as much about SC as I do about quantum physics? ( I dropped general physics after a month ) having the interviewer holding the microphone is pretty common, not sure what you're whining about. there's really nothing wrong with the interviewer holding one microphone between him or herself and the interviewee. | ||
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On July 09 2011 16:01 SuperFanBoy wrote: well they have 3 days, they could of spaced out the games over the 3 days.. i mean the final day its only the the final match and 3rd and 4th place match.. i mean thats 2-3 hours max and 9hours of nothing. NASL was a let down.. Put it this way, MLG has a 1000 plus player tournament in three days. NASL takes 8+ hours to get through the 16man opening round! | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On July 09 2011 15:58 johnnyspazz wrote: ok, say each match on average is 20 minutes, i think that's fair. 8 series, a potential of 24 games, that means a total of 8 hours of games for a bo3. if you change it to a bo5, there's a potential of 40 games, meaning 13 hours and 20 minutes. how is it practical to increase the amount of content by 66% when you're under a strict time schedule? Well I would rather have a losers bracket than bo5 but if they did do bo5 they could have done 2 streams (they already have 2 sets of casters) and less downtime between the matches. I'm sure they could schedule a lot better and be more efficient. HSC was like 4 days, 32 competitors, had group stages, and a losers bracket. NASL finals are 3 days long, 16 competitors, no group stages, and no losers bracket. | ||
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RockshellGW
93 Posts
For example, say we took all the winners from today and theoretically restarted the bracket with the winners all facing each other in one side of the bracket, and all the losers facing each other on the other side. Now the winners of on the loser's side of the bracket are guaranteed to place higher than what realistically happened, while the losers of the winners could have potentially placed higher but were subject to an unfortunate pairing. Now keep the theoretic image in your head, wouldn't it make sense that we would see more exiting games between the winners side players and the losers side players, because they're more evenly matched? Sure its awesome to watch the Koreans go 2-0 in every match, but I want to see some more games from the players that got eliminated, almost none of them were able to show any kind of style. (White-ra esp comes to mind) Also I don't like the set maps, InControl even said on stage that they were great maps, I disagree and even if I did like them it was really boring watching the same two maps get played all day. | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 09 2011 16:01 SuperFanBoy wrote: well they have 3 days, they could of spaced out the games over the 3 days.. i mean the final day its only the the final match and 3rd and 4th place match.. i mean thats 2-3 hours max and 9hours of nothing. NASL was a let down.. i agree that the NASL showing was pretty piss poor, but honestly, the people complaining about the format are just upset fans who thought their favorite player deserved a second chance. there's nothing unfair about a 16 player single elimination tournament. i'm sure they could've definitely fixed the seeding but i'll say it again, there's nothing unfair about a 16 player single elimination tournament | ||
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Jtn
444 Posts
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odder
United States405 Posts
double elimination format better response to audio issues maybe include short pregame interviews when you bring the players on stage place main camera on a separate platform where people dont walk on to avoid shaking | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
waiting 2 hours WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION heavily sucked - sound sound was a plain joke throughout the first 4 games i watched (it was too late by then, see point 1) neither caster nor interviewer sound worked properly. didn't they ever test the techsetup? - observer observer in first two games made me puke, i dunno what was going on became better later on still was quite messy and missed a lot of stuff - delay between games the intro vids are a great idea, just highlight vids in sc2 are quite boring and i didn't wanna see them after waiting 2 hours to finally see some games + streamquality was better than freestream of GOMTV atleast | ||
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