EPTNASL Event Discussion Thread - Page 49
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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Lifter
United States126 Posts
Fire the sound guy already and get a new production staff. Put professionals in charge NASL, please. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
The schedule changing was just terrible. When you tell people a certain game will happen at X time, you can't just make it an hour or 30 mins early - I feel horrible for the people that missed games because they started too early. The starting late happens, I get that. And when that happens people won't just miss games cause they are unaware of when they will happen - people cam gauge how far off the schedule you are and get an idea of when it'll start. You just have to release a schedule and get close, even run late but there's no excuse for going the other way and starting early. My other main issue is the stream, which may be a jtv issue but it's worth mentioning. I paid $20 on day 1 so I expected HD for the season and finals but I often found myself on 360p and this weekend, experiencing major lag during battles. Now I realize most people had no issues, but some of the regional jtv servers had a ton of trouble all weekend and honestly too often during the regular season. I have good internet and no issues with almost any other stream so I don't know where the blame lies but it needs to be fixed for me to buy another season pass. The great games and atmosphere made this one hell of an event, even with the issues. I look forward to season 2! | ||
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
honestly the games were amazing....like seriously almost every single one was amazing. Only person to get wrecked was Boxer, but you cant help but love it cuz its boxer. Anna, Rachel, and Lindsey loook unbelivable good...hmmm delicious . Underline ENT was fun to watch, the finals were epic.....casters were great. Good job incontrol, gretorp, tastosis and ofc Day9. Yes the sound was bad, but im sure the sound guy will either have learned, or they get a new one. <3 | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
Linsey needs to be forced to learn nothing more about sc2 so her interviews remain hilarious instead of boring. I personally enjoyed the cheesey aspects like the hot chicks and what not, nerds gotta have a little fun once in a while doesn't always have to be so srs. Um thats it, fun weekend, hope to see more. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On July 11 2011 13:16 Quenchiest wrote: It's terrible that you missed it, but looking at the schedule one could have assumed it wasn't going to run the entire 8 hours. It was only scheduled as such so they had some sort of contingency and leniency with the timing. Actually - no. They've had so much trouble and so many delays over the weekend that the only thing one could assume was that once they got their act together and things working, they'd actually stick to their schedule. After their first rescheduling, I tuned in at 21:45 CET to find the first game played already, when the start of the match was scheduled for 22:00. I then went to bed around 23:00 when the finals were still set for 01:00, thinking it'd be too late to watch anyway, only to read this morning that they started at 23:30. Follow this thread to see lots of other viewers getting shafted by this. And you know what? None of this was announced officially. Sure, if I had F5'ed this thread's OP every 5 minutes or closely monitored some IRC chat, I might have noticed. But what about presenting such information where people may actually read it, like, on the stream? Nope. Nothing. For the live audience at the venue, sure, this was cool. They didn't have to sit through 8 hours of random content to see a Bo5 and a Bo7. For thousands of viewers online, especially those outside the US, this partially or completely spoiled the event. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
I have seen people from the community offer their support and offer to help NASL in threads, on shows (djWheat even did so today) etc... and they instead chose to go it alone. I don't know if that is pride, arrogance, or stupidity, but clearly from the production side it was not a good choice. There are alot of tech savvy people in this community who would be willing to help for little or even no pay, use these resources please NASL if you don't have the money to hire experienced staff. | ||
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OddFox
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 11 2011 10:29 Defacer wrote: Thanks for this.I've been working as a Graphic Designer for a little more than ten years, and a design manager for the past year. I have some experience managing and design web and multimedia projects, but most of it related to exhibits and graphics for themed environments, small-format print work, illustration etc. So I know quite a bit about large-format graphics, and how much it cost to make the most random things. They could have just clad and painted the front of the desks with black plywood so they could mount the banner flush against it. The overbuilt white frames on all the cabinetry was a goofy, random decision made by someone that didn't think through the design and function of the desks before construction. I wouldn't be surprised if those desks were heavy as hell. I can think of probably a dozen ways they could have done a better job with less money and less time. It also struck me how they splurged for the vanity cheques but there wasn't a NASL sign in sight on stage. Anyways, the problems from my post in Day 1 persisted through Day 2 and 3. The good games don't change that. Congrats on finishing it out but yeah, there's still a lot of work to be done. | ||
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Pred8oar
Germany281 Posts
But i have to say that it seems that they had a hughe budget but didnt spent it right. The hall felt to big, htey flew in a lot of casters and didnt use them a lot, the interviews were crappy and the audio guy was asleep half the time. Also no double elimination and a lot of downtime. As awesome as the finals were i somehow feel that it is unfair that a lot of players have been playing for months to qualify for the finals and didnt get any reward, instead someone who didnt play a single match besides the finals took all the prize money. So i hope that NASL will improve in the future. | ||
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Ikuu
United Kingdom97 Posts
The whole thing feels like they've hired all their friends and family, rather than getting people with experience. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Next season will be 45 participants, I'm sure we could find a nice system for players, viewers and organizers. And same for the playoffs (well, not a lot of work there, either use bo5 or double elim, double elim would be better imo, this weekend showed that they could have a lot more games) | ||
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firalol
United States51 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
![[image loading]](http://cult.razerzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Picture-104.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://s.sk-gaming.com/image/image/bb53403edc9e1019x.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img.gomtv.net/imgdata/1563.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://media.mlgpro.com/site/images/features2/2011_dallas_starcraft2_eventinfo2.jpg) ... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ttLR6.jpg) This is not a picture that shows the stage at it's best but still this is not even close to the same level. | ||
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Hammurabio
152 Posts
Battle Lag - During the big engagements, the stream turned into a slideshow. It's very annoying to miss the best part of the match. I don't have this issue on GOM, IGN, Day9 or any other streams. Sound - I don't what I could say that hasn't already been covered. NASL really needs someone who knows what they are doing on sound. Please.... There are other small improvements that could be made. But the important thing is to broadcast the matches so we can hear and see them as intended. | ||
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meams
United States41 Posts
I think the NASL was working with the bare minimum of ammenities, so it was crucial they executed everything they DID provide correctly. Sadly, the sound was buggy (as mentioned), the stream laggy at times (as mentioned), and the format was terrible. Like others have said: 1) Huge breaks suck. 2) Make a schedule and STICK TO IT. 3) And most importantly ---- UPDATE YOUR GODDAMN TOURNAMENT WEBPAGE: I think it is absolutely goddamn fucking pathetic that I have to come to Team Liquid to get ANY information about this tournament. Look: I understand that team liquid is the bastion of Starcraft information - the networking node that connects our souls and all that shit..... but SERIOUSLY. If you have a major tournament with a $50,000 first place prize, you think you could take the time at night to update your webpage for the next day. Scheduling, updated brackets, event developments, etc. ITS A NOBRAINER. DO YOUR GODDAMN JOBS. I'm really glad I didn't buy a Season Pass. Some people will hate on me for criticizing so severely w/out contributing monetarily to the production of the event. Unfortunately for hte NASL (and many other producers), I don't relinquish my money until the product I'm purchasing is known to be in good working order. It is more than apparent that this product has defects. | ||
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Gutrot
122 Posts
Pros: Everyone and everything having to do with games, players, crowds. The games between Sen and MC, and Puma and MC were AMAZING in my mind. July vs Sen was ok as well (zerg is just kinda meh to me, I know personal preference). I don't think Hollywood could have written a better script for the way the semi-finals and the finals played out. Trully epic. The casters were awesome, and the crowd was really into it. Explosive cheering for small things like a no gas getting scouted. The casting was amazing. Everyone loves Tastosis obviously, but Gretorp and Incontrol did great as well. Cons: Im sure you've read it alot up to this point, but the only thing holding the tourney back from being the best in the history of SC (its still up there even with these cons) was the production. The Sound as has been mentioned was seemingly always in flux. It would be to soft, then too loud, then too soft, then perfect, then too soft, then perfect, then too soft, then to loud, then perfect, then too soft. Arg! I was pretty dissapointed the 1080 was unwatchable, but he 720 was alright. And the most annoying thing to me was waiting almost an hour between matches. As an online viewer I don't want to give up 8+ hours of my day to watch only 6-8 matches. | ||
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
Beatiful women are nice but if they don't have the knowledge to go with it, it tends to create very awkward moments that are just hard watch. I think it's better to have the casters that aren't casting at the moment to conduct the interviews. Skip the player intros and stream more games (should be no problem if you use a double elim bracket). Good effort non the less, looking forward to the next season. | ||
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Ponyo
United States1231 Posts
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