Sound: -Sometimes you don`t hear the players or interviewers at all -The casters audio varied a lot too -Why could I hear some random dude talking in the background at times?
General: -the obsing needs serious work. A lot of times the action is missed even when it is obvious some big battle is about to happen -the camera of the obsing is also shaky at times for some reason -more focus on the production tab -maybe show videos when they are waiting to resolve technical difficulties? The part with gretorp looking all confused and looking everywhere before the Boxer match was akward
Also for next season the suggestion below is valid:
On July 09 2011 15:20 Jono7272 wrote: Format
9 Weeks of league play, travelling hundreds of miles, to just play 1 Bo3 is ridiculous. Double elimination or Bo5's in the finals would be more suitable.
have players set up their equiptment while you are playing the break video/intro videos, 20 minute breaks then you introduce the players then they start to set up even if there is no troubles thats a lot of downtime between matches.
Watching this event makes me appreciate how professionally run MLG Columbus was.
Overall, the amount of delay between games were pretty inexcusable when they only had to prepare one game at a time... It's almost as if there was a power outage between every match.
I said this in the different thread, but do the same thing as MLG. They really have it down right. Put big name games on the main stage, and then have a "player area" where the other players go and play their games. And put on two streams, one for main stage and one for the player area, have the different casting duos commentate the match, and that way there will almost always be some sort of games on.
9 Weeks of league play, travelling hundreds of miles, to just play 1 Bo3 is ridiculous. Double elimination or Bo5's in the finals would be more suitable.
Totally agree on this.
I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be a loser's bracket, a group stage or at least BO5s. There is no need to be able to cast EVERY game sequentially live on stage. And even if time was such an important factor, today's schedule could have been ten times tighter even with a more fair tournament format.
-Already mentioned, but having Bo5's would be more suitable for grand finals. I actually felt really bad for Ret.
-Larger map pool? Loser's choice or something? Anything than just the same 3 maps over again.
-Audio quality(balancing etc). It's also quite annoying having the sound settings constantly tweaked with in the middle of matches, Either test things before hand or do it within the 30 minutes between matches.
-Inform the players of where they are suppose to go and what to do. It felt kind of awkward at the start when the Korean players aimlessly walked around the stage after a series not really knowing where to go.
-Less downtime in between matches and give the audience an estimated time of when the next games will start. It's irritating having to stay at the computer waiting for games while I could be playing a ladder game or something. Also helps save bandwidth as I don't need to watch pointless game highlights/ awkward stories.
Thats all I can really think of at the moment.Decent first day overall, but a lot of problems could have been easily avoided.
I think the biggest improvement would be to just have someone, anyone, watching the stream (if their wasn't anyone doing so) as soon as it goes live. The majority of the audio problems should have been noticed right away, especially with the audio balance.
gunrun obsing definitely improved, but I don't understand why you wouldn't have an experienced obser right off the bat.
Games were great, I didn't mind any of the casters, don't know about the interviews as I didn't watch em. I understand this league is still in it's infancy, but it wasn't really a great start for a finals. It felt rather amateurish even with tastosis[9] and some of the best in the world playing.
On July 09 2011 15:36 MechKing wrote: I said this in the different thread, but do the same thing as MLG. They really have it down right. Put big name games on the main stage, and then have a "player area" where the other players go and play their games. And put on two streams, one for main stage and one for the player area, have the different casting duos commentate the match, and that way there will almost always be some sort of games on.
yeah and while you're at it, change the name from NASL to MLG
The primary complaint for me, is the overall experience of the event compared to similar tournaments.. When other tournaments have had problems, it seemed like alot of them were 'force majure' with internet issues, floods etc.. I sit back with the feeling, that NASL was in control of every error they made I think my biggest point of constructive feedback would be, to get professional staff
On July 09 2011 15:35 Milkis wrote: Watching this event makes me appreciate how professionally run MLG Columbus was.
I really hope NASL takes all this criticism to heart like MLG did after Dallas. It is the only way they will have motivation to improve for next season.
9 Weeks of league play, travelling hundreds of miles, to just play 1 Bo3 is ridiculous. Double elimination or Bo5's in the finals would be more suitable.
Totally agree on this.
I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be a loser's bracket, a group stage or at least BO5s. There is no need to be able to cast EVERY game sequentially live on stage. And even if time was such an important factor, today's schedule could have been ten times tighter even with a more fair tournament format.
the GSL doesn't have a loser's bracket, does that mean their tournament is unfair?
honestly, people are just complaining about the format because their favorite player lost.
The fact that The number 1 seed (Ret) had to play the winner of the open tournament (Puma) while the runner up of the open tourney (Alive) had to face the sixth seed from NASL (Darkforce) is a farce.
NASL punished Ret for being the number 1 seed. The Open winner should not have been slotted against the first seed. They knew that whoever won that tourney would likely be better than many of the NASL finalists. The open winner should have gone somewhere in the middle.
At the very very very least Ret should have faced Alive and Darkforce should have drawn Puma. That would have actually rewarded Ret for being first instead of Darkforce for being 6th. It also gave Alive a much better draw for losing the finals to Puma.
The waiting was the worst thing ever, the intro vids took sooo long.. they had more then enough time to do bo5's instead of bo3's.. I mean you fly people over from all over the world to compete atleast give them a proper chance with a bo5 or a losers bracket? Oh and did I mention the waiting? If it wasn't for tastosis I don't think I would of continued watching.
1hour between each series is kinda ridiculous.. and the frustration was clear from the fans at the event. I heard even the round of 8 its going to be bo3? I mean seriously bo3 for round of 8? why?
On July 09 2011 15:36 MechKing wrote: I said this in the different thread, but do the same thing as MLG. They really have it down right. Put big name games on the main stage, and then have a "player area" where the other players go and play their games. And put on two streams, one for main stage and one for the player area, have the different casting duos commentate the match, and that way there will almost always be some sort of games on.
yeah and while you're at it, change the name from NASL to MLG
Don't show 30 mins of damn highlights before every match. A snippet of highlights is fine but not every freaking game.
And yeah 1 bo3 is such a waste for people to fly over for. Also spread the games better over the 3 days. 8 bo3s on friday which took 12 hours, ro8 and ro4 on sat and 3rd place and finals on sunday is such a bad spread of games.
The number one concern is the issue of interference in play from outside parties via chat or potential cheating. There should be a check that all players/casters are set to busy. This was the most concerning problem as it potentially damages all credibility in fair play for a multi-thousand dollar event.
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I think my biggest point of constructive feedback would be, to get professional staff
