[July] SC2 General Discussion - Page 9

On July 12 2011 10:52 Probe1 wrote:
SanDokaN_X while I'm honored you picked me out of the many people that said the same exact thing, maybe you should be focusing on a cruel fact: It might just be you. As I and many others see it, Terran has the highest skill cap in general. I'm sure if you practiced more then you wouldn't feel as vulnerable to infestors.

However if you leave a Zerg player untouched for a long period of time you'll end up with a result like my last game. A ZvP on Typhon Peaks that a Protoss traded no harassment for an earlier expansion and death ball. The result was a 2 base P verse a cross position 5 base Zerg with twice as many workers and a 50 supply lead with sorely lacking defense against harassment.
If Zerg had literally pooled 1000 m 1500 g after getting a lair, infestation pit and pathogen glands then stockpiled 2500 resources then I am very confident you didn't harass enough or the timing of this was late mid game or true late game. If you were on the NA server I'd be glad to practice with you and help you find the weak timings to infestors.

Infestors are great. Cloaked ghosts counter the hell out of them. Don't take it up with me, practice like a champ.

On July 12 2011 16:48 Probe1 wrote:
Use everything you can. If I could build bunkers I would.

On July 05 2011 13:24 MAYKID wrote:
I hate playing against Zerg... They can reproduce their army within minutes while I play toss takes a little longer.

On July 12 2011 23:09 ShrikeG wrote:
Anyone else have trouble logging in? I won a ladder game and then went to go play another and the match making area would never load. I could load the join custom fine but not match making (I didn't try to actually join a custom though). I logged out to see if relogging would fix it and this is what I get.
http://i.imgur.com/jnVYJ.jpg

edit: I also tried restarting starcraft twice with no change.
edit2: This is NA server.

On July 13 2011 00:52 Rex_j wrote:
i'm not new to strat but new to sc2, why is it that wen i get to the midgame i have no idea what to do n end up freezing up waiting for my opponent to make the first move... what can i do to keep as fluid in the midgame as things are earlygame?

On July 13 2011 00:10 norterrible wrote:
It's Tuesday so i'd assume its just the maintenance that happens every week. usually lasts a few hours at least.

On July 13 2011 00:52 Rex_j wrote:
i'm not new to strat but new to sc2, why is it that wen i get to the midgame i have no idea what to do n end up freezing up waiting for my opponent to make the first move... what can i do to keep as fluid in the midgame as things are earlygame?

On July 13 2011 02:37 bayside wrote:


What race? I am new to sc2 as well (1 week/low gold), What I did to vastly improve my midgame was to simply work on my begining. This is the biggest problem I found, being that I was absolutely terrible at my macro, and did not know what to produce when I reached the 8 minute mark.

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Everything you do before the 8 minute mark is paramount to how your midgame plays out. What I did was practice a build and get the 8 minutes down until it was crisp, then I began working on a couple different builds. (I'm a Terran, so I started out with 2 rax FE, first focusing on not missing workers, while scouting, keeping my build all lined up, after I got it down to be crisp, I changed builds to a 1/1/1, then did multiple variations pof the 1/1/1, warden has an awesome post about this for terrans, and lots of excellent replays) Now I will do 4-6 of these "macro" practices per night dividing up my builds. It is a very simple thing you just play against medium AI on random, and just play through the first 8 minutes. Usually at around the 8 minute mark, I have a decent army that can defend against toss, or zerg rushes.

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If you are a terran player, I recomend working on the 2 rax FE first, so that way you can get your early game very good, and it will be an easy switch to go 1/1/1, or even MMA's Reaper Rush (day9 "Steal this Build!"). Another thing that you should not be extremly worried about right now is micro, because you probably only have about 30-70 APM, after you get your first 8 minutes down, there is a QXC Stutter Step practice map, for only terran, that will help you worry about learning some micro, and harrassment. It is a very good map.

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Also watch day9 Videos!!! They are paramount to teaching you a lot of unique tips and tricks that will help you, even more so if you are a terran player, because he goes into great lengths and details explaining about unit comp, and a lot of other very small details that you should train your mind to pay attention to! But anyways, I wish you luck in your endaevors, but focus mainly on your early game, because that will put you in a very economic viable position to dominate midgame/change unit comps to beat your opponent.

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Also don't stop spending, keep scouting, say if I have an extra marine, I will always go to the Xe'lNaga tower just so that way I know when the next guy is doing, also my scout timing is usually around 1:30, 5:00, and then it just depends on what I see when I scout (at 1:30 you wont see much, but if you watch enough replays you will learn little keys and tricks that will tell you what your opponent is most likely going to do) Also I do not just watch Terran Replays, I watch a mix of everything and go into great length to describe what I see, and write it down, writing things down is also paramount to what you will do, because you will remember and be like "Oh yea, I should do this." It is just going to take time, and soon you will get there, but don't think you will be able to just get away by constantly playing ladder games.

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There is a saying that we use in the Army, "Work Smarter, not Harder"

What race? I am new to sc2 as well (1 week/low gold), What I did to vastly improve my midgame was to simply work on my begining. This is the biggest problem I found, being that I was absolutely terrible at my macro, and did not know what to produce when I reached the 8 minute mark. Everything you do before the 8 minute mark is paramount to how your midgame plays out. What I did was practice a build and get the 8 minutes down until it was crisp, then I began working on a couple different builds. (I'm a Terran, so I started out with 2 rax FE, first focusing on not missing workers, while scouting, keeping my build all lined up, after I got it down to be crisp, I changed builds to a 1/1/1, then did multiple variations pof the 1/1/1, warden has an awesome post about this for terrans, and lots of excellent replays) Now I will do 4-6 of these "macro" practices per night dividing up my builds. It is a very simple thing you just play against medium AI on random, and just play through the first 8 minutes. Usually at around the 8 minute mark, I have a decent army that can defend against toss, or zerg rushes. If you are a terran player, I recomend working on the 2 rax FE first, so that way you can get your early game very good, and it will be an easy switch to go 1/1/1, or even MMA's Reaper Rush (day9 "Steal this Build!"). Another thing that you should not be extremly worried about right now is micro, because you probably only have about 30-70 APM, after you get your first 8 minutes down, there is a QXC Stutter Step practice map, for only terran, that will help you worry about learning some micro, and harrassment. It is a very good map. Also watch day9 Videos!!! They are paramount to teaching you a lot of unique tips and tricks that will help you, even more so if you are a terran player, because he goes into great lengths and details explaining about unit comp, and a lot of other very small details that you should train your mind to pay attention to! But anyways, I wish you luck in your endaevors, but focus mainly on your early game, because that will put you in a very economic viable position to dominate midgame/change unit comps to beat your opponent. Also don't stop spending, keep scouting, say if I have an extra marine, I will always go to the Xe'lNaga tower just so that way I know when the next guy is doing, also my scout timing is usually around 1:30, 5:00, and then it just depends on what I see when I scout (at 1:30 you wont see much, but if you watch enough replays you will learn little keys and tricks that will tell you what your opponent is most likely going to do) Also I do not just watch Terran Replays, I watch a mix of everything and go into great length to describe what I see, and write it down, writing things down is also paramount to what you will do, because you will remember and be like "Oh yea, I should do this." It is just going to take time, and soon you will get there, but don't think you will be able to just get away by constantly playing ladder games, there is a saying that we use in the Army, "Work Smarter, not Harder"