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ProxyZooZ
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States53 Posts
July 10 2011 08:49 GMT
#121
On July 10 2011 00:21 SanDokaN_X wrote:
This is mid diamond game on Taldarim Altar, TvZ, I go first stimmed marine drops at the 7 minute mark, he has two expansions, and just finishing his lair. I kill about 20 drones with my drops, he is forced to make a crapload of lings. I retreat, (thinking he is so far behind) and after that, I push with Combat shields and siege tanks and 3 medivacs. Suddenly, 10 infestors pop out and 3 of them kill all of my marines. Tanks get owned by the lings. So, with nothing left, I start to desperatly make ghosts, marines and thors from 2 bases, because I have scouted a spire. 5 minutes after that, he has 15 infestors, 8 brood lords and 50 lings and banelings. I gg before even the battle has begun.
Please get this joke the f*ck out of the game or I'll seriously start to all-in zergs with 3 rax or banshees. It just feels so wrong you can have such a powerful unit in such a short time. Even gold zergs now spam infestors with success vs terran. Infestor into brood lord is so fucking OP combo and counterable only by experienced terrans. I have a total of 90 1v1 ladder games only.

Ghost are so strong vs zerg that they should become a staple .. i am no Terran expert by any means (believe me i know) but i am absolutely interested in this timing change for infestor rather than a debuff because infestor should still be a playable unit ... but only to a limited amount imo ... like high templar (if they didn't have archon morph :/) idk just trying to keep the discussion alive cause we all know infestor needs some changes (even us zergs who are experts at imba by now <3)
? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <3 <3 <3
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
July 10 2011 08:57 GMT
#122
I am having a tough time finding the location of the NASL finals, can anyone give me the exact address?
ProxyZooZ
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States53 Posts
July 10 2011 09:19 GMT
#123
omg i saw the adress inadvertently i will refind it if you take a picure with MC :D
? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <3 <3 <3
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
July 10 2011 09:25 GMT
#124
On July 10 2011 18:19 ProxyZooZ wrote:
omg i saw the adress inadvertently i will refind it if you take a picure with MC :D


I am down to do that lol
ProxyZooZ
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States53 Posts
July 10 2011 09:26 GMT
#125
dOntario Convention Center

Ontario Convention and Visitors Bureau

2000 E. Convention Center Way

Ontario, CA 91764

glhf ...
:D
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ProxyZooZ
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 20:37:48
July 10 2011 10:01 GMT
#126
? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <3 <3 <3
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
July 10 2011 11:18 GMT
#127
I'm sick of terrans thinking they can win with marine tank against zerg all the fucking time. Broodlord against tanks, infestors against marine. What don't you understand? Start using ghosts or vikings with some spread micro and stop whining. I admit zerg whined ages about protoss colossi but it's not as bad now because we've adapted.
Naniwa <3
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
July 10 2011 11:36 GMT
#128
Come on, as a zerg player you can't seriously ask to "stop whining"... Right?
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Rooster93
Profile Joined May 2010
79 Posts
July 10 2011 14:19 GMT
#129
fungal growth should not be able to kill units only to drop their health to 1
trololololololololololol
XXhkXX
Profile Joined June 2011
170 Posts
July 10 2011 17:59 GMT
#130
On July 10 2011 00:21 SanDokaN_X wrote:
This is mid diamond game on Taldarim Altar, TvZ, I go first stimmed marine drops at the 7 minute mark, he has two expansions, and just finishing his lair. I kill about 20 drones with my drops, he is forced to make a crapload of lings. I retreat, (thinking he is so far behind) and after that, I push with Combat shields and siege tanks and 3 medivacs. Suddenly, 10 infestors pop out and 3 of them kill all of my marines. Tanks get owned by the lings. So, with nothing left, I start to desperatly make ghosts, marines and thors from 2 bases, because I have scouted a spire. 5 minutes after that, he has 15 infestors, 8 brood lords and 50 lings and banelings. I gg before even the battle has begun.
Please get this joke the f*ck out of the game or I'll seriously start to all-in zergs with 3 rax or banshees. It just feels so wrong you can have such a powerful unit in such a short time. Even gold zergs now spam infestors with success vs terran. Infestor into brood lord is so fucking OP combo and counterable only by experienced terrans. I have a total of 90 1v1 ladder games only.



I thought by coming to the TL community I would run into more educated and based complaints on balance, rather than a bunch of QQ over balance. I used to post on the battle net forums and realized my mistake pretty quickly when nearly all the posts were just QQ over balance and nothing with valuable insight. Atleast post a replay so we can analyze it :/
Trox
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden20 Posts
July 10 2011 18:54 GMT
#131
Hello

First time poster here o/. I was just playing a game against my zerg friend and lost because of lings in my base ^^ what really bugs me tho is that I am 100% sure my walloff is tight, can anyone please look at this replay Sc2Rep and give some pointers to what happened?

Thanks
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 19:28:30
July 10 2011 19:27 GMT
#132
Next time just screenshot it.

It was 90% wall off. If a stalker can fit through then zerglings can possibly squeeze in due to an old rare bug.

Also you didn't lose. You proxy'd a dark shrine in tasteless's secret hallway and your opponent instantly gave up.


TL;DR It's a bug it won't happen 9/10. Put both your zealots on hold position adjacent to the wall next time.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Trox
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden20 Posts
July 10 2011 20:17 GMT
#133
On July 11 2011 04:27 Probe1 wrote:
Next time just screenshot it.

It was 90% wall off. If a stalker can fit through then zerglings can possibly squeeze in due to an old rare bug.

Also you didn't lose. You proxy'd a dark shrine in tasteless's secret hallway and your opponent instantly gave up.


TL;DR It's a bug it won't happen 9/10. Put both your zealots on hold position adjacent to the wall next time.



Lol, I didnt notice i took the wrong rep :/ sorry. Here is screenshots instead. Thanks for the help

Before

After
liam33
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada192 Posts
July 10 2011 20:25 GMT
#134
whats better vs zerg 2 factory reactor hellions or 2 factory blue flame hellions few less hellions for blue flame
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 10 2011 20:29 GMT
#135
Yeah you need two zealots to close the gap from that building placement.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
XXhkXX
Profile Joined June 2011
170 Posts
July 10 2011 21:16 GMT
#136
On July 11 2011 05:25 liam33 wrote:
whats better vs zerg 2 factory reactor hellions or 2 factory blue flame hellions few less hellions for blue flame


I believe that the latter would be better, due to the fact that one factory would have a tech lab and the other would have a reactor, you could quickly transition into seige tanks or thors if your hellions run into trouble, making it a lot easier to secure your expo.

The first one with two factory reactored hellions seems very inflexible. If the zerg got roaches and went for a counter attack you could potentially end up in big trouble.

Don't read below if you haven't seen Puma vs July yet.
+ Show Spoiler +

Also you could transition into a Puma style of play like he did at NASL. Which punished July for being too greedy.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242432
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 10 2011 22:44 GMT
#137
On July 11 2011 05:17 Trox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:27 Probe1 wrote:
Next time just screenshot it.

It was 90% wall off. If a stalker can fit through then zerglings can possibly squeeze in due to an old rare bug.

Also you didn't lose. You proxy'd a dark shrine in tasteless's secret hallway and your opponent instantly gave up.


TL;DR It's a bug it won't happen 9/10. Put both your zealots on hold position adjacent to the wall next time.



Lol, I didnt notice i took the wrong rep :/ sorry. Here is screenshots instead. Thanks for the help

Before

After


I might be off, but it looks like your Zealot shifted to the left towards the Cyber. He seemed pretty well place in the before pic, but the after looks off from the original placement of the Zealot.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 22:58:22
July 10 2011 22:58 GMT
#138
On July 10 2011 00:21 SanDokaN_X wrote:
This is mid diamond game on Taldarim Altar, TvZ, I go first stimmed marine drops at the 7 minute mark, he has two expansions, and just finishing his lair. I kill about 20 drones with my drops, he is forced to make a crapload of lings. I retreat, (thinking he is so far behind) and after that, I push with Combat shields and siege tanks and 3 medivacs. Suddenly, 10 infestors pop out and 3 of them kill all of my marines. Tanks get owned by the lings. So, with nothing left, I start to desperatly make ghosts, marines and thors from 2 bases, because I have scouted a spire. 5 minutes after that, he has 15 infestors, 8 brood lords and 50 lings and banelings. I gg before even the battle has begun.
Please get this joke the f*ck out of the game or I'll seriously start to all-in zergs with 3 rax or banshees. It just feels so wrong you can have such a powerful unit in such a short time. Even gold zergs now spam infestors with success vs terran. Infestor into brood lord is so fucking OP combo and counterable only by experienced terrans. I have a total of 90 1v1 ladder games only.

What is the purpose of whining for an entire paragraph, then ending with "Oh, but I've only played 90 games "
Don't complain if you haven't even played enough to learn the game -.-
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Tyqer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
July 11 2011 00:02 GMT
#139
What is the purpose of whining for an entire paragraph, then ending with "Oh, but I've only played 90 games


This.

I've only played maybe 140 or so games but I know a lot about the game because of studying and such, but there's still a lot for me to learn and improve on.

Infestors are really strong though. I would really like a Zergling buff... (probably not needed but come on, I love Zerglings...!)
For the swarm.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 11 2011 02:25 GMT
#140
On July 11 2011 02:59 XXhkXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 00:21 SanDokaN_X wrote:
This is mid diamond game on Taldarim Altar, TvZ, I go first stimmed marine drops at the 7 minute mark, he has two expansions, and just finishing his lair. I kill about 20 drones with my drops, he is forced to make a crapload of lings. I retreat, (thinking he is so far behind) and after that, I push with Combat shields and siege tanks and 3 medivacs. Suddenly, 10 infestors pop out and 3 of them kill all of my marines. Tanks get owned by the lings. So, with nothing left, I start to desperatly make ghosts, marines and thors from 2 bases, because I have scouted a spire. 5 minutes after that, he has 15 infestors, 8 brood lords and 50 lings and banelings. I gg before even the battle has begun.
Please get this joke the f*ck out of the game or I'll seriously start to all-in zergs with 3 rax or banshees. It just feels so wrong you can have such a powerful unit in such a short time. Even gold zergs now spam infestors with success vs terran. Infestor into brood lord is so fucking OP combo and counterable only by experienced terrans. I have a total of 90 1v1 ladder games only.



I thought by coming to the TL community I would run into more educated and based complaints on balance, rather than a bunch of QQ over balance. I used to post on the battle net forums and realized my mistake pretty quickly when nearly all the posts were just QQ over balance and nothing with valuable insight. Atleast post a replay so we can analyze it :/



The difference is we ridicule posts like that and if that's the norm then eventually a moderator will sort it out.

90 ladder games and you've learned one impressive skill. Crying imba.
Keep up the (I mean start) all in//mass banshee! I was going ling bling muta anyway and I need more ladder points.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
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