EPTSC2 MLG groups for Anaheim are out! - Page 8
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Hi everyone, MLG does it's groups by points, they've outlined how they do groups months ago before any of the events. There's no conspiracy. EG and Liquid have lots of players in the MLG Top X. Teamkills are inevitable. | ||
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Gezuz
Sweden306 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
Still I think they should seed MMA based on his rank points, and only have 3 'invites' for the other three Koreans who didn't come last time. Then Naniwa should not have a Korean in his group since he is top seed. EDIT: Also, I don't get how Lee said pools are based 'purely by rank point' when they aren't taking MMA's points into consideration. | ||
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RapidLoad
Sweden16 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote: All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL  Sending different players every time, means that unless they win like MMA did, they won't be able to accumulate enough rank points to go to the National Championship (if I've understood it correctly). And we all want to see MC there!! and to some extent, LosirA  At least over some of the non-korean players currently in the top 16... | ||
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dapanman
United States316 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:54 RapidLoad wrote: Assume that they did ask the koreans first, since MMA is going and he's seeded at no. 3. How come he's not placed in group 3 already? Would also like to know this. Also in the future a policy to just pay the MLG winner's airfare would make more sense than giving MMA one of the precious GSL spots. I'd rather have MMA seeded at 3rd and 4 GSL players seeded 16-20 (even if that meant losing huk .) | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote: All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL One question remains: Did MC & Losira decline their spot or not? You talk about Thorzain but not anything about MC or Losira eventual decline. | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:56 Gezuz wrote: Its not surprising that MC and Losira declined as only the first place would make the trip to US and back worth it so if their teams arent paying they themselves would definetly not bother going, Definitely a lot of truth to this, but furthering yourself for the national finals ($50k) as well as just the publicity in general actually makes it a worthwhile investment IMO. | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1403 Posts
Pool A will be fun to watch, though it sucks about the team kills. Pool D is probably the most boring to me, though it will be interesting to see how his time in Korea effects Mooman. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:54 ptbl wrote: Ahh, so MC and Losira said they wouldn't come to Anaheim. If MC and Losira changed their minds they would have to come to the Open Bracket, like Huk did for MLG Dallas. I wonder why they turned it down though It's quite simple why they turned down their pool seed. Only the players that are invited through the exchange program get their flights paid for them, players like MC and Losira wouldn't be among those as MLG_Lee already said that they want to invite different players every time. So that means that MC and Losira have to pay for their own flights and accommodations. That's not cheap. You would need to get 3rd place or better not to lose money on the trip. And while 3rd place is quite reachable for these players, it's far from certain. And that makes the whole MLG business quite a financial gamble for those Koreans that don't get their trip financed. | ||
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Siphonn
United States298 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:58 TheSilverfox wrote: One question remains: Did MC & Losira decline their spot or not? You talk about Thorzain but not anything about MC or Losira eventual decline. I'm sure MLG asked them and they decline to come to Anaheim and be placed into championship pool play. If MLG didn't ask them, there would be hell to pay lol. So, I doubt MLG would be that naive to create a publicity nightmare. | ||
MLG_Lee
279 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:57 RapidLoad wrote: Sending different players every time, means that unless they win like MMA did, they won't be able to accumulate enough rank points to go to the National Championship (if I've understood it correctly). And we all want to see MC there!! and to some extent, LosirA At least over some of the non-korean players currently in the top 16...Just so it's clear, National Champions are OPEN TO EVERYONE.. The only difference is that there's no Pool play in championship bracket at National Championships. It's purely a double elim bracket for Championship Bracket with the Open Bracket winners advancing to fill it out. So YOU could come to the national championship, fight your way through Open and win USD$50,000 in prize money. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote: All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL Good to hear some clarification. It seems very fair that reigning Korean MLG winners should be re-invited. It is good for fans and incentive for the Koreans to try even harder to become repeat champions, receiving paid trips around the USA. Also, inviting three new players allows for fans to get more exposure of different players, so this benefits all parties. Thorzain preparing for GSL, totally understandable. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
Really too bad for Tyler, 1 spot away from still being seeded. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On July 02 2011 07:31 Bobster wrote: Do you have an MLG source for that? MLG's own site shows their ranking points. Looks like Losira and MC declining their invitation to me. I like MLG so I won't even entertain the thought of them posting the lineup without asking the Korean returners first. What it looks like to me, is that they are coming back as invitees which seeds them into the 4 exchange spots. If MMA came on his own he would be seeded higher. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On July 02 2011 08:00 Rannasha wrote: It's quite simple why they turned down their pool seed. Only the players that are invited through the exchange program get their flights paid for them, players like MC and Losira wouldn't be among those as MLG_Lee already said that they want to invite different players every time. So that means that MC and Losira have to pay for their own flights and accommodations. That's not cheap. You would need to get 3rd place or better not to lose money on the trip. And while 3rd place is quite reachable for these players, it's far from certain. And that makes the whole MLG business quite a financial gamble for those Koreans that don't get their trip financed. Yes, but they also get more points for the national championship, which has a prize pool of 50k. They would be missing out on it because attending one MLG, won't get you enough points to avoid the open bracket. Plus, MC has traveled to other tournaments with small prize pools like Copenhagen. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
Oh well, it has to be done i suppose. | ||
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RapidLoad
Sweden16 Posts
On July 02 2011 08:00 MLG_Lee wrote: Just so it's clear, National Champions are OPEN TO EVERYONE.. The only difference is that there's no Pool play in championship bracket at National Championships. It's purely a double elim bracket for Championship Bracket with the Open Bracket winners advancing to fill it out. So YOU could come to the national championship, fight your way through Open and win USD$50,000 in prize money. Is the National Championship part of the exchange program? I.e. would the koreans have to pay their trips by themselves even if they have enough rank points to go straight into top 16 or is it covered by MLG/GSL? | ||
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
Ouch. | ||
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odder
United States405 Posts
On July 02 2011 08:01 PartyBiscuit wrote: Ah, was wondering why Huk was seeded into the pools but I remember Thorzain isn't competing in anymore MLGs. Really too bad for Tyler, 1 spot away from still being seeded. just cheer for Huk to make the GSL finals and then Tyler might get the bump up | ||
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