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Hi everyone, MLG does it's groups by points, they've outlined how they do groups months ago before any of the events. There's no conspiracy. EG and Liquid have lots of players in the MLG Top X. Teamkills are inevitable. |
I'm sorry but the groups are ridiculous. All Korean invites get into separate groups. Why can't players from same team get the same privilege?
Why can't you do the same thing GSL does? Players choose who they want to be grouped with (higher seed players choose first and so on). You don't need to stretch it out for 2-3 hours, I'm sure in 30 minutes the groups can be made in the morning of the tournament. It can be streamed, there would be drama, viewers would love it. And the players would be satisfied because they choose who they are getting grouped with.
If it was seeded for a bracket, sure I understand if players from same team have to play each other early in the tournament. But for group play?? ... no
my2cents
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On July 02 2011 08:33 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:18 Toadvine wrote:On July 02 2011 08:08 Ownos wrote:On July 02 2011 07:46 Aurdon wrote:On July 02 2011 07:37 Milkis wrote:
If LosirA and MC decides to come to MLG without the invite, the pools might change though, apparently :O Is there not some rich fan or sponsor of eSports that wouldn't want to do a single person sponsorship for MC to get a plane ticket to the states? Stride, are you listening? How many fans would go apeshit if some way MC was able to come and then all the fans found out it was possible because of X sponsorship. You realize how many mentions that would get for that sponsor. #ROI As if he couldn't just buy a plane ticket himself... -.- Perhaps he would, had the prize pool been more appealing. As it is now, getting 3rd barely covers travel expenses for KR players. The EU players don't seem to have any trouble coming over.
1. Plane tickets from Western Europe are much cheaper than from Korea. I don't know about Eastern Europe, but I don't think it's a coincidence that Strelok only attended one and stopped going, and this is going to be WR's first time this year. Edit: Apparently, Strelok never even went to one. lol
2. Not many Euros are going to MLG to go through the open bracket. The few that went last time, like Morrow and Thorzain, aren't going this time. Coincidence? I think not.
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On July 02 2011 08:39 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I'm sorry but the groups are ridiculous. All Korean invites get into separate groups. Why can't players from same team get the same privilege?
Why can't you do the same thing GSL does? Players choose who they want to be grouped with (higher seed players choose first and so on). You don't need to stretch it out for 2-3 hours, I'm sure in 30 minutes the groups can be made in the morning of the tournament. It can be streamed, there would be drama, viewers would love it. And the players would be satisfied because they choose who they are getting grouped with.
If it was seeded for a bracket, sure I understand if players from same team have to play each other early in the tournament. But for group play?? ... no
my2cents
The group placement is actually based on player's performance at past MLG's. The placement of GSL LXP players conforms to that placement practice. I'm not sure how you feel this is a privilege. There's nothing subjective about this, it's purely based on rank points earned through placement at an MLG event.
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Nice I'm glad drewbie made it in pool play
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Group B group of deaaaath
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TLO is on the groups? He's not playing is he?
Also, teamkills are unfortunate 
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Well if TLO cant play, just put ret in for his spot and add someone else to group C. xD jk Can't wait!
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A - stacked
B - decent skill range
C - "the kiddie pool" - the korean will manhandle them all
D - decent skill range
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On July 02 2011 08:42 MLG_Lee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:39 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I'm sorry but the groups are ridiculous. All Korean invites get into separate groups. Why can't players from same team get the same privilege?
Why can't you do the same thing GSL does? Players choose who they want to be grouped with (higher seed players choose first and so on). You don't need to stretch it out for 2-3 hours, I'm sure in 30 minutes the groups can be made in the morning of the tournament. It can be streamed, there would be drama, viewers would love it. And the players would be satisfied because they choose who they are getting grouped with.
If it was seeded for a bracket, sure I understand if players from same team have to play each other early in the tournament. But for group play?? ... no
my2cents The group placement is actually based on player's performance at past MLG's. The placement of GSL LXP players conforms to that placement practice. I'm not sure how you feel this is a privilege. There's nothing subjective about this, it's purely based on rank points earned through placement at an MLG event.
So that means the korean invites who have been to mlg before will get the highest seeds? I'm assuming you can't confirm, but if you place the koreans by previous placement then MMA will have to be in group D, correct? I understand that foreigners are placed based on previous outcomes but does this hold true for the gsl invites?
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The group placement is actually based on player's performance at past MLG's. The placement of GSL LXP players conforms to that placement practice. I'm not sure how you feel this is a privilege. There's nothing subjective about this, it's purely based on rank points earned through placement at an MLG event.
Even though that guy didn't understand the current system I still like his suggestion a lot and you may want to consider it. Having Pools be determined GSL style with the top seeds picking a player then their picks selecting etc... would be such a great thing to add next season. It adds a lot to the story lines and personalities of the players. Please consider it for next season guys!
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I am actually surprised that TLO has decided to play in the event.
I thought he would be taking more time off because of his injury ... maybe he got some good news from the doctor or is recovering better than expected. If he didn't go at least there would have only been 2 Liquid players in group A ... AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD HUK VS IDRA!
Anyway group look good. I am also really happy that MLG decided to invite MMA after he decided he wasn't going to pay his way to Anaheim.
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On July 02 2011 08:42 MLG_Lee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:39 Shinobi1982 wrote:
I'm sorry but the groups are ridiculous. All Korean invites get into separate groups. Why can't players from same team get the same privilege?
Why can't you do the same thing GSL does? Players choose who they want to be grouped with (higher seed players choose first and so on). You don't need to stretch it out for 2-3 hours, I'm sure in 30 minutes the groups can be made in the morning of the tournament. It can be streamed, there would be drama, viewers would love it. And the players would be satisfied because they choose who they are getting grouped with.
If it was seeded for a bracket, sure I understand if players from same team have to play each other early in the tournament. But for group play?? ... no
my2cents The group placement is actually based on player's performance at past MLG's. The placement of GSL LXP players conforms to that placement practice. I'm not sure how you feel this is a privilege. There's nothing subjective about this, it's purely based on rank points earned through placement at an MLG event.
No love for GSL group selection method?
Players were very positive about you sir and Sundance last MLG for walking around players area to get feedback from players. This is just another small thing that can be sorted out to accommodate players in tournament. I can imagine TL/EG raging now about the groups.
**Edit** I understand very well how the groups are made and it is fair from tournament organizer point of view. But players/teams who get the short end of the stick are far from happy. I mean 3 out of 4 teammates in same group...
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gogo drewbie fighting! wow group A is rough for liquid but shit happens!
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Players were very positive about you sir and Sundance last MLG for walking around players area to get feedback from players. This is just another small thing that can be sorted out to accommodate players in tournament. I can imagine TL/EG raging now about the groups.
To be fair you still get team kills in GSL style groups because the picked players can select someone from the same team as another person already in the group. You would almost never see 3 players from the same team in a group though unless it was the last one.
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On July 02 2011 08:50 Contagious wrote:
Well if TLO cant play, just put ret in for his spot and add someone else to group C. xD jk Can't wait!
Theres not even a need to move ret. The next in line if TLO cant play is Tyler lol.
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I am happy I get to see TLO play again but, if he didn't go...
We would've had:
1) Only 2 Liquid Member in Group A
2) TYLER! would have made it into groups
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3) We would have gotten Idra vs Huk in group play.
Oddly enough it would have also put Sheth and Moonan --The only seeded FXO players-- in the same group.
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I can't wait to see Idra vs Sheth!
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Good to see that the rankingpoints are finally starting to work and that the likes of Gretorp are non longer seated. Makes it more fair regarding the current situation.
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On July 02 2011 08:34 Thorzain wrote:I've been travelling for so much lately including private stuff so I'd just like to have some time at home. That's why I'm not coming. It's also because it's close to the GSL so it'll be less stressful this way. Anyways this makes HuK get a seed, afaik  . Will be awesome to be at home watching the stream when HuK and nAni go at it!
You could say you just want to CHILL OUT.
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