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Hi everyone, MLG does it's groups by points, they've outlined how they do groups months ago before any of the events. There's no conspiracy. EG and Liquid have lots of players in the MLG Top X. Teamkills are inevitable. |
On July 02 2011 07:44 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 07:30 dapanman wrote:On July 02 2011 07:28 sermokala wrote:On July 02 2011 07:18 dapanman wrote:Do the Koreans not get rank points to be seeded back into the bracket or did they all just decline? Edit: 1 Dignitasnani 1200 650 1850
2 IdrA1 600 800 1400
3 *SlayersSMMA 0 1200 1200
4 SLush450 490 700 1190
5 KiWiKaKi 1000 140 1140
6 SeleCT- 900 180 1080
7 *IMLosira 0 1000 1000
8 LiquidRet 340 600 940
9 EGiNcontroL 800 130 930
10 *oGsMC 0 900 900
11 LiquidHayprO 310 460 770
12 LiquidTLO 700 60 760
13 SjoW 400 340 740
14 Sockeh 650 0 650
15 FXOmOoNan 550 90 640
16 EG-Machine 280 280 560
17 ROOT-drewbie 430 120 550
17 *wemadefox_Moon 0 550 550
19 FXOSheth 210 310 520
20 *ThorZaIN 0 490 490
21 GosuHuK 460 0 460
22 LiquidTyler 250 190 440
23 FnaticFenix 4 430 434
24 StartaleJuly 0 400 400
25 Sixjax_ViBE 180 110 290 Looks like MMA, Losira, MC, Moon and Thorzain weren't seeded into the top 16. Inviting MMA again seems pretty dumb considering he was already third seed. MLG is paying him to fly over again but wont give him his seed? I hope we get some clarification from MLG so this sounds a little less stupid. The koreans didn't attend MLG as actual players they where invited into the event and don't get seed points at all. The top korean gets re invited to the next event thats why MMA is returning Boxer is the second invite and we don't know on the other 2. Please provide a source on that. I find it hard to believe they don't get seed points, because they get seed points. that link is to a rank page says nothing about seeding. if you look at http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sc2.jpg which is sited when they explain how they came up with the pools you can clearly see that the GSL seeds are all the last 4 and are nameless. and as for the souce of where I got the whole Koreans not playing in mlg as players but "invites" http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/official-press-release-gomtv-global-starcraft-2-league-and-mlg-announce-first-ever-player-exchange-program you can see there that the Invited players are then judged by their GSL rank and never a mention of a future events mlg rank. So we are basically left to wonder if A. The Koreans simply didn't want to re attend an MLG which is wildly unlikely from their comments at the last mlg or B. That they simply can't attend due to them not being invited. I Relive the former is the case.
This has already been answered by Lee from MLG. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222580¤tpage=21#415. If MC and Losira decide to come on their own, they will be seeded into championship pool play.
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On July 02 2011 07:37 Milkis wrote:
If LosirA and MC decides to come to MLG without the invite, the pools might change though, apparently :O
Is there not some rich fan or sponsor of eSports that wouldn't want to do a single person sponsorship for MC to get a plane ticket to the states?
Stride, are you listening?
How many fans would go apeshit if some way MC was able to come and then all the fans found out it was possible because of X sponsorship. You realize how many mentions that would get for that sponsor.
#ROI
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groups look pretty even to me skillwise. but If I had to choose I would say group A hardest, group C easiest.
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They already made the pools so they can't be seeded in anymore.
As in its locked in now.
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they shouldnt invite mma again. he should come as a seed. doesnt make sense to give him an mlg invite spot. he is the reigning champion lol. ^^
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Too bad the seeded Koreans didn't bother to come back, but with such a small prizepool it's not really a surprise. Looking forward to the group A games for sure, nani vs huk should be very interesting. The rest, especially C & D look extremely weak unfortunately...
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MMA, Losira, Moon, MC and Thorzain all turned down their seed into pool play and won't be paying their own way to Anaheim.
MMA obviously has been invited and will get the free trip to Anaheim and we know Boxer has been invited and gets a free trip.
I think it would be a bad precedent to invite Losira or Moon or MC and as no Korean who was seeded would ever pay their own way over. They would just decline the seed and hope for an invite. I have no problem with MMA getting the free trip as he is the defending champion and it looks bad to not have the defending champion attend.
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On July 02 2011 07:41 ProxyKnoxy wrote:If MLG didn't have the extended series rule everything would be really different :O -Thorzain would have beat MC the second time -He would have been in Pool play this event -He would come to this event 
MC would not have played the same way at all if it wasn't extened series. He showed at Homestory that he can beat Thorzain comfortably.
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All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players).
Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat.
So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent.
Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL
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On July 02 2011 07:49 Pudge_172 wrote:
MMA, Losira, Moon, MC and Thorzain all turned down their seed into pool play and won't be paying their own way to Anaheim.
MMA obviously has been invited and will get the free trip to Anaheim and we know Boxer has been invited and gets a free trip.
I think it would be a bad precedent to invite Losira or Moon or MC and as no Korean who was seeded would ever pay their own way over. They would just decline the seed and hope for an invite. I have no problem with MMA getting the free trip as he is the defending champion and it looks bad to not have the defending champion attend.
That sucks that MC and Losira turned down their seed. Do you have a link where it was stated they turned it down?
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ouch thats a lot of teamkilling in group a, is tlo even going to participate?
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On July 02 2011 07:45 Milkis wrote:
Hrmmm, so clarification.
Apparently if LosirA/MC comes they'd play in the open.
Weird.
It's a bit weird but not totally. HuK decided very late to come to MLG Dallas and they didn't change the groups afterwards - he got no1 seed in the Open though.
It could be that they needed a decision from MC, LosirA and ThorzaiN a specific date if they would come. Maybe they said no, or maybe they was not sure.
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On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote:All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL
Ahh, so MC and Losira said they wouldn't come to Anaheim. If MC and Losira changed their minds they would have to come to the Open Bracket, like Huk did for MLG Dallas. I wonder why they turned it down though
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On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote:Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat.
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For everyone except MMA, right?
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On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote:All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL
Locking the pools now is definitely for the best. I'd imagine things would get too hectic if you had to make last minute changes. Any news on whether TLO will be playing or not? He said he was taking a break due to injury so there's some confusion.
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MMA getting the free trip via the LXP due to being defending champion.
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On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote:All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL Oh, so you've contacted everyone already.
That means MC Losira and Thorzain declined, but TLO took his spot??
That's big news. Comeback at Anaheim?
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On July 02 2011 07:55 MrDudeMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 07:50 MLG_Lee wrote:All, Pools are locked. So this is final top 16 and pool for Anaheim (not including the GSL LXP players). Also, placement in pools is determined PURELY by rank point earnings by players. Others have linked the way it works here, so I wont' repeat. So if MC, Losira, Thorzain decide to come now, they'd be playing through open. We likely will not be inviting MC or Losira to Anaheim as the intent of the LXP is to invite many different players. We felt that if an LXP player won and event, they should always be re-invited back to defend their title. So MMA is the exception to that intent. Thorzain had a top16 spot but declined it because (as I understand it) he really wants to focus on doing well in GSL, and the travel back and forth would be harsh. Upside is that HuK got his spot, so he'll be starting in Championship Pool. Downside... Huk ends up in pool A with the rest of TL Locking the pools now is definitely for the best. I'd imagine things would get too hectic if you had to make last minute changes. Any news on whether TLO will be playing or not? He said he was taking a break due to injury so there's some confusion.
TLO will be playing or he would have turned down the invite......
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