On June 25 2011 02:25 stevarius wrote: Deprive them of $50 and see how far they'll go.
It's embarrassing for a company to resort to acts like this.
A business (read as: primary job = make money) is enforcing their Terms of Service agreement (which we had to accept and agree to follow) so that they don't lose money. And if they enforced it on some random little bronze noobie, it wouldn't get any attention. If they enforced it on big-name players, however, it might actually make headlines (or a TL thread) and make other people think twice about breaking the rules. While we may not like it because we love HuK and TLO, I can certainly see why Blizzard would choose to do what they did.
This would be less on an issue if accounts weren't region locked... pool of players would be bigger, could log in from anywhere any time and find a game.. etc etc. Keep ladder regional if you really want, but allowing world wide customs would alleviate a lot of hassle for players.
It sounds to me like the problem is that the MMR on Huk's account is so high that he can't find opponents. The solution he came up with is to log on with TLO's account so he could actually play the game, which he was unable to do with his own account.
Pretty silly for Blizzard to threaten to ban the account for this, since the problem seems to be their matchmaking system.
They should not have made it public that they were sharing accounts. I mean, huk was even streaming ladder on tlo's account at one point. There's no way you didn't know that account sharing was illegal. Why would you publicly flaunt it?
On June 25 2011 02:31 Gingerninja wrote: This would be less on an issue if accounts weren't region locked... pool of players would be bigger, could log in from anywhere any time and find a game.. etc etc. Keep ladder regional if you really want, but allowing world wide customs would alleviate a lot of hassle for players.
Good point and I agree. It may be a horrible sounding idea but maybe make a "super" version you can purchase (for the same amount as all regions combined) that allows a player to be on all regions and find matches with all regions of someone with similar MMR. I see flaw in my idea but still it seems like all the big name players that play in tournaments everywhere could then practice and always find a match (with lag no doubt but still).
I don't quite understand the details, but it seems that Blizz was angry because HuK doesn't own an EU account, and played on the server with TLO's. Now I don't want to engender hatred toward Blizzard, because they did make this amazing game after all, but it is a bit ridiculous to get angry that someone is playing on a server they don't own an account on for the sole reason that they didn't shell out another 60$ for an EU copy of the game. Also, didn't Fnatic.Sen use a TL user's account to play in some NA tournament a while back? Why isn't Blizzard getting mad at him?
I can guarantee, however, that if a nameless masters or below player used a friend's account to play custom games or ladder games, blizzard wouldn't care. This seems suspiciously like a ploy to make everyone aware of this part of the TOS, and to intimidate the better players who use friends' accounts to play in tournaments in other regions to buy that region's copy of the game client.
I think blizzard is one of the few companies where if you buy a game...you buy the right to use the game instead of actually owning it. Big gaming companies like EA try do this aswell by giving you a code for multiplayer which can only be used once and discouraging games being lend out or being sold to another person. Mostly you have an option to buy a new multiplayer code..but still..I think the system is really broken. Oh yeah...and having Lan option is also to much ask obviously even though your game is a huge esport.
On June 25 2011 01:00 Galek wrote: Just plain stupid. Whats the point actually since Huk already owns an account (probable even more than one) so Blizzard did get the money from him already. We will already have to pay for the game three times, I can imagine how hard it is going to be for progamers who will have to pay like 3 times (europe, NA, korea servers or even more) for 3 parts of the game to be able to train properly on every server.
They want others to buy accounts and more than just 2-4 but more like 15 amongst all your friends that play it. They don't want it promoted so they can get out another million or so buyers.
On June 25 2011 02:25 stevarius wrote: Deprive them of $50 and see how far they'll go.
It's embarrassing for a company to resort to acts like this.
A business (read as: primary job = make money) is enforcing their Terms of Service agreement (which we had to accept and agree to follow) so that they don't lose money. And if they enforced it on some random little bronze noobie, it wouldn't get any attention. If they enforced it on big-name players, however, it might actually make headlines (or a TL thread) and make other people think twice about breaking the rules. While we may not like it because we love HuK and TLO, I can certainly see why Blizzard would choose to do what they did.
I like how you're implying that making an example out of a pro player would curb the account sharing of other players. It won't and it's laughable to even attempt to do so. Let's not even get on the subject of one of the parties being in possession of a BROKEN product.
If you're going to play the game of warning professional players using the accounts of others, you have to do it to all of them that are in plain view or not at all. A business can't be selectively picking them out as it seems to be in this case.
This is just ridiculous. This also explains the season 3 map pool; not enough time to develop good maps at blizzard because they are busy running a call centre
Don't know what the blizzard rep said but sounds like it was not handled very well from the "account might get banned" stuff.
One would think good PR reps would be very polite and informal in the talks with Take to avoid starting rumors like this. Perhaps it was like that but if was like the impression I get from these rumors it doesn't seem like it's a very good community manager.
Eula's wont stand up in any court. But blizzzrd knows its cheaper to buy a new copy than hire a lawyer. They can ask for your first born and we still click accept.
Well, one good thing came out of this. Blizzard helped us to notice a big problem with the way they work with the ladder bugs hindering players to play in combination with enforcing the TOS randomly.
So blizzard asked that they didn't stream account sharing? How is that not fine? Huk has an EU account for the tourney custom games so all this bitching about region locked accounts is totally off topic.
The thread title should be changed, it's sensationalist.
Also, blizzcon qualifiers will most likely be decided by ladder ranking. How much drama will there be if people who didn't level their accounts were invited? I actually expect there to be some drama around the time of qualifiers. Blizzard has a crazy way of detecting any shenanigans from their database so expect some bans.
retarded request when they are doing so little work on the game; they have a team of 50 people thats supposed to do everything;
they released the game BEFORE they even finished drawing the icons for certain upgrades. thats how under-manned they are when it comes to SC2.
The ladder is a joke in terms of maps, management, points vs mmr etc. The channels on b.net cannot be moderated by anyone the way you could in SC1 and WC3. Imput limit Reached. The map search function is shit. You are never able to find any maps because they are not aranged alphabetically at any times and they are never aranged in likely of match when you search for something.
You might search of "ESL" and then before you get to click on the map you want you have to scroll 7 pages and search for the map among other maps that don't even have "ESL" in them.
YOU ARE A JOKE enforcing crappy rules like this but not fixing your battle.net 2.0. I would seriously rather play SC2 on Battle.net 1.0 with the SC BW interface !
Seems entirely fair to me, lol. They were not only breaking the rules but announcing it to the whole world. Blizzard was more than fair to contact them and warn them. You could get away with that sort of thing just fine if you don't stream it.
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